The idea of something being corrupt is that it existed in a previous time or exists in another place currently in a non-corrupt state.
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Talmud of Emmanuel:
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Most cultures/religions refer to some kind of events that have either happened before or are the goals of the religion itself. But specially referencing the two mentioned here. They seem like natural progression of humans, or fear of humans escalating in their progression âawayâ.
It does help to have a mapped out timeline for how humans will naturally evolve over the years, a time of conflict before enlightenment sounds more like necessity than prediction.
But itâs always the final righteousness spreading over earth and winning over, which⌠I think is very natural for humans to want to âpredictâ
Lots of savior complex is always involved 
Personally, I think this is how earth/pre-earth life started. It brings a full cycle this way.
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I dont get this part.
Can you elaborate?
Thanks.
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If you look at it from a more biblical perspective you will find life starting in âheavenâ, Eden etc
If you consider the mythological perspective then the theme of heaven on earth is also present
Then the eastern angles will tell of the unseen lands that nurture themselves in hidden realms (shambahalla, for example)
Then also if you look at it from a cosmological perspective combined with history (romans)
of course there is always agartha who seem to have started this in reverse (hence their presence in inner earth) and likely started with âwarâ first and are now enjoying their heaven.
But these are all personal theories and connections from these pointers and maybe a few more, the only one that I know of that is supported by more concrete markers is the age of gold and its research (history, cosmology, mythology) but itâs a very consistent theme.
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Now that I think more about it, I also understand that there is a big ancient rival that likely needs to enlighten humans for it to settle down again 
But, personal theories :) although, this one isnât really personal.
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These are some Great theories, and backed by spiritual, religious and mythological connections and ideas.
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Everything that has a beginning has an end.
7 chakras/planets/seals/trumpets, kundalini rising⌠those books arenât about the end of the world though.
These processes have been going on since the dawn of time, and they wonât stop if people forget how to understand them.
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I love this theory ! But where do I find the audio ?
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So the âNew Sunâ as in âSaturnâ ? The sun that rises from the west as mentioned in Islam ? Because it is mentioned that once it rises from the west your sins will never be forgiven no matter how you try. As if the connection between earth and god is cutâŚ
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A thought just arrived, what if âthe sun rising from the westâ is a mirror of sorts, an opposite or a fake world (a copy)?
Crazy thought.
fear of god itâs not about you trying to fear god
god made good and bad
the bad things that people go through like illness and ghosts and demons and name whatever you want there God made it.
thatâs why people fear God, itâs not about an airy belief.More likely an aknowledgement of what God really is.Donât fool yourself you have to fear God either 
you really donât have to.
but otherwise I donât have things to contribute to the conversation.Donât think anyone can answer too, I mean someone can see the future? Prophets generally do thatâs why they are prophets.
Religions are mostly built on the concept of âheavenâ and âhellâ so do you worship your god because you are afraid of hell ? Or should you be worshipping him because you love him ?
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what anything but my worship itself has anything to do with all that?
why it matters to me? Itâs like what? an election of some short I have to participate and you giving me the options?
come on man, donât try to start a conversation with your beliefs. You do conversations to try to learn more.
I am not trying to force anything on anyone here. Me asking those questions is out of confusion not me trying to prove you wrong.That is the point of this whole conversation. I am trying to find a path to follow.
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should have said it firsthand. The subject is really complicated to have only two options you know. No harm done anyways, I didnât took it like that.
Anyways, itâs a personal thing to worship and of course worship is just that, be it fear or love itâs still worship. There are other things that make you worhip such as admiration,gratitute,lucky moments,courage and yes all those other feelings too that are considered bad can give you motivation to worship. All things like that happen.
And generally I think those things choose you not you them.From my own experience and as I saw others too.
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There is a reason itâs called an âEmblemâ because the symbolism it carries dives a lot deeper than that. This topic of earlier convention/transformation (dark)/then itâs rise is not only relatable to Saturn but also⌠âother âfiguresââ
Itâs very hard to talk about without being deliberately cryptic let alone bring it up at all. This âsplitâ is just a reference to many possible eventsâŚ
Again, itâs all a sum of personal references and encounters. But the resources are many.
While I do know about the redirection of the sun, it could be a symbol of veil thinning, predictable collision, a full round of change, or nothing literal at all. I donât know your beliefs so I donât think I can touch on this topic. Itâs better if you find out what makes sense best to you based on multiple sources that direct you towards some kind of multilayered understanding.
These are 2 different theories one has to do with the beginning and one has to do with the time that we are in now into the âendâ of time.
(Tiamat is a Private NFT - Emblem NFT is Public)
PS: Itâs not the path that makes a difference but sometimes itâs more how you approach it, some donât thrive in a path of hierarchy and linear transformation while others find themselves thriving in it. If you are able to eliminate the mental setbacks to the least resistance, you can find your own way in any pathâŚ
To an extent :)
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luckily I found an article I have already seen. It says just about what I said with bible verses. You can check it out if you want.
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