If religions are corrupt and are used to decieve or control people. What is the judgement day ? And why are so many of the prophecies of that day ( Whether in the Bible and the Quran ) coming true ?
Note : I was born in a religious family and left that path because I didn’t believe that we should be “afraid” of god or the “judgement day” . Since fear is the lowest of vibrations.
I personally think they control these events/“prophecies” for their own goals (Programming).
I personally dont care about prophecies.
It’s about keeping their authority and set of prohibitions checked. To control and exercise their power.
If everyone is afraid to the Judgement day, everyone will be “good” to go to heaven.
What about the prophecies ? @heidegger
I do think that there are certain predictions you can make based on what you know and read about people.
And many of those predictions will fail, meanwhile an small percentage will actually happen.
But most people talk about the predictions that happened rather than the 95% predictions that failed.
So, it is a numbers game.
‘Prophecies’ are ‘fulfilled’ throughout history - there are always periods of war (WWs), disease, earthquakes, pestilence, charismatic leaders who are ‘the devil’, etc, etc.
Like…there is a belief in the Islam religion that this world will come to an end one day because there will be a time that the sun will rise from the west.
What I don’t like is how these so called prophecies are something very obvious that’s going to happen anyways.
These kinds of things just keeps people in fear and what’s more sad is if you ask 99% of people what they think of death, they are instantly in fear
The idea of something being corrupt is that it existed in a previous time or exists in another place currently in a non-corrupt state.
100%
Talmud of Emmanuel:
Most cultures/religions refer to some kind of events that have either happened before or are the goals of the religion itself. But specially referencing the two mentioned here. They seem like natural progression of humans, or fear of humans escalating in their progression “away”.
It does help to have a mapped out timeline for how humans will naturally evolve over the years, a time of conflict before enlightenment sounds more like necessity than prediction.
But it’s always the final righteousness spreading over earth and winning over, which… I think is very natural for humans to want to ‘predict’
Lots of savior complex is always involved 
Personally, I think this is how earth/pre-earth life started. It brings a full cycle this way.
I dont get this part.
Can you elaborate?
Thanks.
If you look at it from a more biblical perspective you will find life starting in “heaven”, Eden etc
If you consider the mythological perspective then the theme of heaven on earth is also present
Then the eastern angles will tell of the unseen lands that nurture themselves in hidden realms (shambahalla, for example)
Then also if you look at it from a cosmological perspective combined with history (romans)
of course there is always agartha who seem to have started this in reverse (hence their presence in inner earth) and likely started with “war” first and are now enjoying their heaven.
But these are all personal theories and connections from these pointers and maybe a few more, the only one that I know of that is supported by more concrete markers is the age of gold and its research (history, cosmology, mythology) but it’s a very consistent theme.
Now that I think more about it, I also understand that there is a big ancient rival that likely needs to enlighten humans for it to settle down again 
But, personal theories :) although, this one isn’t really personal.
These are some Great theories, and backed by spiritual, religious and mythological connections and ideas.
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
7 chakras/planets/seals/trumpets, kundalini rising… those books aren’t about the end of the world though.
These processes have been going on since the dawn of time, and they won’t stop if people forget how to understand them.
@Rogue I didn’t get it ? How is it gonna happen anyway ? What’s the explanation to it ?
I love this theory ! But where do I find the audio ?
So the “New Sun” as in “Saturn” ? The sun that rises from the west as mentioned in Islam ? Because it is mentioned that once it rises from the west your sins will never be forgiven no matter how you try. As if the connection between earth and god is cut…
A thought just arrived, what if “the sun rising from the west” is a mirror of sorts, an opposite or a fake world (a copy)?
Crazy thought.
fear of god it’s not about you trying to fear god
god made good and bad
the bad things that people go through like illness and ghosts and demons and name whatever you want there God made it.
that’s why people fear God, it’s not about an airy belief.More likely an aknowledgement of what God really is.Don’t fool yourself you have to fear God either 
you really don’t have to.
but otherwise I don’t have things to contribute to the conversation.Don’t think anyone can answer too, I mean someone can see the future? Prophets generally do that’s why they are prophets.
