I guess you could never 100% know that someone loves you. You canât even know if theyâre actually conscious or not. Could just be playing the sims and youâre the only conscious being walking around falling in love.
Thatâs taking it to a scifi extreme. But not going that far it could still be that someone just plays along for 20 years because they like the set up but donât actually have any internal experience of loving anyone.
Iâm a fool then. 
But, still, you can love sims as well. 
What you said is Perfectly Valid, you canât know if someone loves you or fakes it or whatever other optionsâŚ
This gonna be a good thread lol
Hopefully, at least it started on a positive note.
Exactly.
Lol
I suppose
I think here we have specific strengths to look at/enphasize:
Yeah you got the first point i presented.
Mhmm if they can be short, why not long as well 
But yeah i think it comes a lot of the times to, thatâs it. Unless something more deeper arises.
I think there could be ways to see?
Certain actions we make and then we see and observe the result of them in them.
Like to start ignoring the person and seeing whether they feel sad or donât care. (And each reaction to what extent)
(Altough this may be a bit darker method.)
I suppose it also comes to strength to talk with them openly and see whatâs up in reality.
Iâm not sure if this thought is exactly on topic or is just an aside.
I was thinking earlier today about how I stopped saying âI love youâ to people. It shouldnât have to be said. Itâs either obvious someone does by their actions or obvious they donât.
Friends whoâve never said âI love youâ to me ever even once clearly fulfilled the basic concept of love by the way they treated me over the years.
And people whoâve said it so many times really didnât. Almost like the more someone says it the less they mean it. And itâs just used as a cover or distraction. They only need to say it if theyâve given you no unspoken evidence of it being true and plenty of unspoken evidence of it not being true.
Sounds like you got a song title for the heartbroken, now finish the song lol.
I HATE saying it lol, to Anyone (family, friends, women, dogs lol)!
The song has not yet been writtenâŚ
Itâs bullshit and you know it 
Iâm hearing it to the tune of Sexy and I Know It
Lol
Imagine it on the tune of âCanât help falling in loveâ lol
Yeah this one could have lyrics
But the melody is there 
Such a beautiful song.
To me as well xd
I wouldnât necessarily say âstronger.â (But then I canât really say. I donât know you.)
Might you have some work or some healing you could choose to do? Of course. But so what?
I think that would be a fair assumption to make about everyone on this forum (including me). I donât think this site would appeal to anyone who wasnât interested in healing and/or improving themselves. So, my âso what?â is to say,
âwhatever about you that you were looking at when you were talking âstrongerâ is no big deal. We have tools to help you and many of those tools are available for you. No big deal. You can do it.â
Youâre smart to be aware of this. As I mentioned in my reply to you, most of âtodayâs relationshipsâ are not based on anything like Love (especially, not the vibration of Love that we can experience from VoDL, AoPL, Love Graviton, etc.). We current humans have sort of crapped up the current meaning of the word, âlove,â because weâre âlooking for Love in all the wrong placesâ (to borrow the old song title).
Some many times, we look to others for the Love that we want to be giving to ourselves. Which results in the experience you reported in your OP and the dependency that our friend @KetherTour brought to this conversation.
âStrengthâ isnât really needed. When youâre healed from an infection, you no longer take antibiotics. When you are practiced in loving yourself and steady in knowing your goodness, you stop looking for other people (on a forum, in your family, at your workplace, in your bed, etc.) to provide that for you, you see? It didnât take any âstrengthâ for you to tell others, âI know how to dress myself. I got this.â You simply decided and did itâno âstrengthâ requiredâand you adjusted your expectations of them accordingly.
Well, yeah, sure. Otherwise, what youâre asking for is holding someone in bondage, which is a very different kind of âlove,â isnât it? 
But look at the other side of this coin: Youâre off the hook! Youâre no longer in the impossible position of trying to control the uncontrollable! Because youâre wise. You understand that trying to control them is impossible.
And when you Knowâtruly Know, not âintellectuallyâ knowâwhen you Know that you can provide yourself with many of those things you were depending on them for, then thereâs no need for you to (futilely) try to control the uncontrollable.
You can Build a Family by being superficial, enjoying short term relationships, having your fun and thatâs it. Thereâs a whole, large subsection of my neighborhood who is doing that right now.
Because âfunâ is defined differently, across different people, across different times of our lives.
And you might find your definition of âfunâ might change as you change, as you continue to do your work and your healing and continue to collect the experienced of your life. Your definition of âfunâ might grow as you grow and might include the depth of intimacy that grows as a relationship deepens. But I would agree with you, when youâre in a place of your life where youâre dependent on other people for things that you can give yourself, thatâs a risky place.
You can handle that risk by setting this policy:
sure.
But thereâs also the other option of healing your stuff, so that you can choose to have more choices. Then you can choose whether you want superficial, or deep, or whatever kind of fun you want to have.
That is a beautiful reply.
Thank You.
I like this part, among others.
Also, superficial or deep, it all depends on perspective, I guess Iâll just let it be and Enjoy Life and Love, The Process, Everything.
There is also Beauty in taking risks.
Anyway, gotta Go, see you guys later.
Thanks for your perspectives/answers. 
Have a Good Night/Day.
âromantic loveâ / âhollywood loveâ is usually motivated by some kind of dependency, hormones etc.
Look how it´s always shown as âstay together foreverâ, âyou complete meâ etc.
Unconditional love isn´t. It´s based on the understanding that we are all source in a human body. I treat the waitress good not bc I am such a âlovingâ / âgoodâ guy but bc I understand that we are one at source level.
However, I believe that 2 healthy (unconditionally loving) people, with aligning soulpurpose, can create a powerful combination. âLoveâ between the two of them isn´t about control, dependency and forceful expectations.
It becomes energetic alchemy that uplifts them and their whole environment. It´s a beautiful dynamic and I believe this is what the (unified) twinflame concept is about.
I have yet to see a relationship like this but believe it is possible with a certain level of maturity.
keep meditating and focus on your heart chakra or use fields for love.
Youâll find the âloveâ youâre looking for eventually.
Donât give up or resent the emotion or whatever you think it is right now.
Maybe if you learn to accept your current experiences youâll find a greater âloveâ at the end.
Beautifully said everyone