Michael and Thor

#261

This thread has gone too far… :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

I think I should share my perspective also, of course without offending anyone.

The way I see that is pretty simple and not complex but still complex. karma, consequences, free will. All that matters is your intention towards other beings. but you should not go too far with your good “intention” that affect other beings’ “free will”. You may think if the intention is all that matters then why I should care about “free will” It all depends on your situation and the action you have chosen to take that affect others some way and so, consequences will generate based on your action and situation.

So, I am going to give some example here:

You know a guy who has some nasty intention, you know he will rape someone or will kill someone, in this situation you know everything, what can happen and you have two options prevent it from happening or let it happen the way it is going to happen. if you chose to happen and let the girl get raped then it will count in your account. because you were aware of everything still you chose not to do anything. You did nothing still you affected many lives. by not taking any action. But if you chose to prevent it using any way using your brain and if it can be prevented even if no one knows you prevented something bad to happen. You affected many lives here again but in a positive way. it will count in your account too but as a “good karma”.

Second situation: someone you know is really sick and you really want them to get healed asap. you know a lot of things which can help them heal but if you secretly heal them then it will go against their free will because you have not even asked them if they want to get healed. this could be a life lesson for them to take care of their bodies nicely. but you went ahead and used your magic or whatever you can secretly. Your “intention” here is good but you cannot help anyone who doesn’t want to get healed.
If somehow you managed to heal them secretly then still it is good karma but it may bind their karma with you which will affect your life. But if you tell them that there is something which can help them heal and you know it how and you can help them in all that if they agree with your help then go ahead. here you have not affected their “free will” you asked they agreed. So that’s good karma for you if they get healed because of you they will remember you and will give you some blessing which will affect your life in a positive way.

So, the karmic consequences depend on the situation and the action you have chosen to take. no one can tell you if you have generated negative consequences because no one knows what your intention was, what was your story, and how you had chosen to take action.

This is a very complex system no one can tell you the 100% truth. even higher beings don’t know the 100% truth the astral also have restrictions there are a lot of things which no one knows yet. (This is my perspective, just a one-man perspective.)

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#262

i like this explanation. take your wisdom into consideration when making choices.

i see “karma” as the ripples from any item being thrown into a body of liquid.

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#264

To be honest I didn’t use the cord cutter that often but after thinking about the times I did use it… Kinda yes and no. Maybe it did work on these cords but I think they always came back right after or not long after that. Now they are gone and I feel much better. It felt like I’ve been dragging these people along on my path… energetic things are felt better and more intense and… even food tasted better for whatever reason. You know the food charger from dream seeds? after removing these cords I could feel the love literally radiating from my cookies and my body felt warm after eating them lol. Before I could tell it was love infused but lessened and not to the extent where I could feel it so intense.

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#265

You don’t want to JUSTIFY. Let those who KNOW the topic speak: _OM

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#266

Small updates and speculations (also resonating with some members’ past experiences and warnings):

So as I already said, I’m with Michael since recently and Thor’s (Loki’s) Mjolnir since months. The latter has always been very comfortable for me, since the very beginning (a few exceptional episodes aside). But Michael?..

Especially for the last 2 days, he’s been playing the banjo with my whole system in a more and more crescent way and brought back the angry side of Taurus on my inner stage. I was like: “You had to come and spoil my recent hard-earned serenity, huh you imposter?! But I will hang on tight and make you cry hiding behind your wings. I’m sick of playing it nice and soft anyway”.

(Hellooooo Ego and its “irritations”, as my Aegean neighbor @anon96557306 says).

Then, it became: “Sorry Mikail (his name in my language), it’s not you, it’s me, boohoo :’( “.

Until I decided this morning to listen to the first 2 audios of Point of No Return Stack (the 2 that I’ve been neglecting recently, while messing around with other fields that I do maybe not need). He seems to have approved that, as well as my decision to get again more physically active and mindful of all the stuff that I was postponing since a while.

So Michael = a ruthless life coach, instead of a tolerant person-centered therapist. A relationship to be watered like a plant.

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#267

See a lot of confusion here. I will copy and paste what Dream said to Jenny in regards to this:

hey jenny
you are fine, don’t worry about it.
These are not the things that are meant really by non interference.
This is still somewhat within your personal scope of things.
I wouldn’t of made it if it really was a problem.
Besides people do these things all the time.
Trust me, you will know without doubt when you should not interfere.
Just like, if your mother or loved one gets old and then has dementia.
It it your duty to care for them.
But would you argue that is interference?
(see my point?)

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I need your help against Spells and Witchcraft
#268

Wow… this thread took a fascinating turn.

I can empathize with you and feel that your intentions were good. I can share my experience with you. Recently, I gave some SM audios to my mom to listen to daily to help her deal with some issues that have come up. She is old and having a very hard time with it all.

Am I interfering? Yes.
Do I want the best for my mom? Yes
Do I want her to feel less pain? Yes
Am I changing her karma? Not sure. How do we know that my interference wasn’t part of the bigger plan?

What I did do was tell her that these audios have energy healing in them like Reiki. They will help to ease the pain and deal with upcoming issues. I didn’t go into any more details about the energy in the audios.

Now time will tell if I did the right thing or not. I’m feeling at peace with my actions.

EDIT: Oops… meant this for @Jennyfire

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#269

I manifest a LOT of things in other people’s lives, often without doing so intentionally. I am aware of these connections as they happen. Some of them are automatic energetic responses that I have programmed and desired.

There is no “equal and opposite” reaction in energy work.

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#270

Yes, that’s a good thing to do.

I didn’t really debate karma or the right to interfere. In the big scheme of things who can say what’s best? Any choice of action leads to spiritual evolvement, so…
The only thing I can say is that if someone put a field on me, unknowingly , that dug up issues I didn’ t choose to deal with…
I would feel betrayed.
No matter the intention.
Probably ones higher self steps in and protects oneself if it’s needed.

And it depends on what field and the persons condition.

A field that just gives energy or a good vibe is fine, but something that needs deeper soul/emotional work, nah that’s creepy.
For me personally, awareness and honesty is key.
But people think differently and it’s also how it should be.

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#271

This is my last post in this thread since many posts have been talking around and/or directly to my points.
and it looks weird if i don’t respond.
Of course if I do respond, it just continues the debate.

I’ll just say, I feel like people are getting “triggered” by the word “karma”, (which I’ve repeatedly, several times, tried to clarify) and what that means yet are adding some judgement/good/bad polarity to it.

So, perhaps rereading what I wrote without one’s own added interpretations will make what I said make more sense, or not.

Other than that, feel free to ignore everything I wrote.

I will respond to this specifically tho
Magic by definition is working in time/space to create a space/time result.
By definition that’s the opposite and equal force playing out.
But again, feel free to ignore because I won’t be responding back in this thread.

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#272

Do you, or have you ever, in any way:

Treated others in an inferior way because of deep-seated issues?
Abused animals or children?
Supported any form of government overreach whatsoever, including ANY law or regulation regarding drugs, private economic agreements, sex, or relationships?

Because if you did ANY of those things, even SLIGHTLY, then you lost all standing to say what is and is not used on you.

I have earth-shaking magick that is literally programmed to effect EVERYONE using any and all means necessary, and you’ll never get the slightest apology for it from me.

People’s deep-seated bullshit is why they mistreat others, and why they support the mass mistreatment of everyone by government. It’s not just yours - you take it with you to the store, to the voting booth, to the bar, to church, and force it on those who are closest to you.

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#273

Michael and Thor in the corner: Thor to Michael – Ahh Man, WTF is happening with our thread. fukk. :joy:

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#274

I see that everyone asks about other things that have nothing to do with the topic LOL.:smile:

That’s why I’ll do it too LOL: :smile:

Sammy, the audio of “CHARISMA GLAMOR” (Gumroad) has affirmations and / or silent subliminal? Or just morphic fields, energy programming? Because the description looks like it’s subliminal audio.

How many times a day should you listen? Is there a recommended number of times?

Are there problems if the recommended time passes or with this audio there are no problems?

“Charisma Glamor” + “St Michael Mandala” is a good combination, good idea?

#275

I feel like the only “ethical” way to go about effecting others is by using fields on yourself which by the given field’s specific purpose would also effect others.

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#277

i love this it’s definitely along the lines of what i’m trying to figure out!

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#278

OM’s point that everyone misses is that its not about punishment, its about getting your karma entangled with theirs.

Another thing everyone seems to miss is that every second of your life, every thought, has an influence/impact on many peoples lives, even when you dont realize it.

Someone cut you off?

“What an asshole!”

You just threw a curse, and based your perception of the person, and got “involved”.

So yeah, everyone is already involved with everything, our egos are just good at pretending to be angels and everyone is a demon.

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#279

Question of “free will” and entangled karma is never clever to elaborate or explain cause it’s on more super advanced level than most humans as their understanding of it… I would never go into that discussion cause it’s literally a rabbit hole…so I would kindly suggest you all not to discuss question of free will and entangled karma anymore…but as you wish I mean, as always

#280

Well I get this but if I see a situation I feel the need to address, my karma is already entangled.

#281

Its not actually. Its a pretty simple concept.

#282

discussion is key to development. if no one was willing to talk about free will, then no ideas and perspectives will be shared and they’ll be stuck with what they believe.

it is always up to everyone if they want to open their mind to new information and if not, then they can just dismiss it and stick to what they believe.

i grew up in a religion that tried to make me stop asking questions and if i followed that, i wouldn’t be here in this forum.

a discussion is a journey and for me the destination doesn’t really matter since conversations always develop new ideas and opinions.

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