Michael and Thor

#267

See a lot of confusion here. I will copy and paste what Dream said to Jenny in regards to this:

hey jenny
you are fine, don’t worry about it.
These are not the things that are meant really by non interference.
This is still somewhat within your personal scope of things.
I wouldn’t of made it if it really was a problem.
Besides people do these things all the time.
Trust me, you will know without doubt when you should not interfere.
Just like, if your mother or loved one gets old and then has dementia.
It it your duty to care for them.
But would you argue that is interference?
(see my point?)

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I need your help against Spells and Witchcraft
#268

Wow… this thread took a fascinating turn.

I can empathize with you and feel that your intentions were good. I can share my experience with you. Recently, I gave some SM audios to my mom to listen to daily to help her deal with some issues that have come up. She is old and having a very hard time with it all.

Am I interfering? Yes.
Do I want the best for my mom? Yes
Do I want her to feel less pain? Yes
Am I changing her karma? Not sure. How do we know that my interference wasn’t part of the bigger plan?

What I did do was tell her that these audios have energy healing in them like Reiki. They will help to ease the pain and deal with upcoming issues. I didn’t go into any more details about the energy in the audios.

Now time will tell if I did the right thing or not. I’m feeling at peace with my actions.

EDIT: Oops… meant this for @Jennyfire

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#269

I manifest a LOT of things in other people’s lives, often without doing so intentionally. I am aware of these connections as they happen. Some of them are automatic energetic responses that I have programmed and desired.

There is no “equal and opposite” reaction in energy work.

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#270

Yes, that’s a good thing to do.

I didn’t really debate karma or the right to interfere. In the big scheme of things who can say what’s best? Any choice of action leads to spiritual evolvement, so…
The only thing I can say is that if someone put a field on me, unknowingly , that dug up issues I didn’ t choose to deal with…
I would feel betrayed.
No matter the intention.
Probably ones higher self steps in and protects oneself if it’s needed.

And it depends on what field and the persons condition.

A field that just gives energy or a good vibe is fine, but something that needs deeper soul/emotional work, nah that’s creepy.
For me personally, awareness and honesty is key.
But people think differently and it’s also how it should be.

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#271

This is my last post in this thread since many posts have been talking around and/or directly to my points.
and it looks weird if i don’t respond.
Of course if I do respond, it just continues the debate.

I’ll just say, I feel like people are getting “triggered” by the word “karma”, (which I’ve repeatedly, several times, tried to clarify) and what that means yet are adding some judgement/good/bad polarity to it.

So, perhaps rereading what I wrote without one’s own added interpretations will make what I said make more sense, or not.

Other than that, feel free to ignore everything I wrote.

I will respond to this specifically tho
Magic by definition is working in time/space to create a space/time result.
By definition that’s the opposite and equal force playing out.
But again, feel free to ignore because I won’t be responding back in this thread.

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#272

Do you, or have you ever, in any way:

Treated others in an inferior way because of deep-seated issues?
Abused animals or children?
Supported any form of government overreach whatsoever, including ANY law or regulation regarding drugs, private economic agreements, sex, or relationships?

Because if you did ANY of those things, even SLIGHTLY, then you lost all standing to say what is and is not used on you.

I have earth-shaking magick that is literally programmed to effect EVERYONE using any and all means necessary, and you’ll never get the slightest apology for it from me.

People’s deep-seated bullshit is why they mistreat others, and why they support the mass mistreatment of everyone by government. It’s not just yours - you take it with you to the store, to the voting booth, to the bar, to church, and force it on those who are closest to you.

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#273

Michael and Thor in the corner: Thor to Michael – Ahh Man, WTF is happening with our thread. fukk. :joy:

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#274

I see that everyone asks about other things that have nothing to do with the topic LOL.:smile:

That’s why I’ll do it too LOL: :smile:

Sammy, the audio of “CHARISMA GLAMOR” (Gumroad) has affirmations and / or silent subliminal? Or just morphic fields, energy programming? Because the description looks like it’s subliminal audio.

How many times a day should you listen? Is there a recommended number of times?

Are there problems if the recommended time passes or with this audio there are no problems?

“Charisma Glamor” + “St Michael Mandala” is a good combination, good idea?

#275

I feel like the only “ethical” way to go about effecting others is by using fields on yourself which by the given field’s specific purpose would also effect others.

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#277

i love this it’s definitely along the lines of what i’m trying to figure out!

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#278

OM’s point that everyone misses is that its not about punishment, its about getting your karma entangled with theirs.

Another thing everyone seems to miss is that every second of your life, every thought, has an influence/impact on many peoples lives, even when you dont realize it.

Someone cut you off?

“What an asshole!”

You just threw a curse, and based your perception of the person, and got “involved”.

So yeah, everyone is already involved with everything, our egos are just good at pretending to be angels and everyone is a demon.

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#279

Question of “free will” and entangled karma is never clever to elaborate or explain cause it’s on more super advanced level than most humans as their understanding of it… I would never go into that discussion cause it’s literally a rabbit hole…so I would kindly suggest you all not to discuss question of free will and entangled karma anymore…but as you wish I mean, as always

#280

Well I get this but if I see a situation I feel the need to address, my karma is already entangled.

#281

Its not actually. Its a pretty simple concept.

#282

discussion is key to development. if no one was willing to talk about free will, then no ideas and perspectives will be shared and they’ll be stuck with what they believe.

it is always up to everyone if they want to open their mind to new information and if not, then they can just dismiss it and stick to what they believe.

i grew up in a religion that tried to make me stop asking questions and if i followed that, i wouldn’t be here in this forum.

a discussion is a journey and for me the destination doesn’t really matter since conversations always develop new ideas and opinions.

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#284

Lol I think I noticed the justice aspect of Michael a few days ago while explaining someone to a friend and someone interrupted me to ask me something else, and I instinctively looked and said something like if I was gonna kill the one who interrupted me for not waiting me to finish. He shut his mouth off instantly, now that I think about it, it was pretty funny lol, but I didn’t notice how silly it was to take the interruption that serious. Even the friend who I was explaining the shit to was like chill bro chill, it’s nothing😂

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#285

lol, same happened to me

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#286

Ok so officially 2 months since first using Michael mandala. I just took it off bc something in my mind was telling me I should, I can’t pin point why. Now that I took it off I feel lighter, more clear headed, this may be just a coincidence or maybe it is not suited for my personality/Higher self. Will stop using it for a while and see how I feel.

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#287

it could also mean that it’s working and it’s time for a respite. sometimes we’re so eager to use these morphic fields for 24/7, but as a friend suggested, less is more. like working out and socializing. it’s fun, but not 24/7 fun.

everyone is different though so i’m glad you’re following your inner guidance and re-assessing your tools in your path!

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#288

Honestly I always like pushing myself to limits, so it’s hard slowing down tbh, but I know I should.

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