According to my calculations, the whole public forum is like 290k posts. Crazy to imagine that this thread is nearly 1/6 of it.
Yeah I had that idea before too. But itād be slightly tricky to implement as we would need a consensus on skill points and how much each NFT has to begin with. In general, cool idea though.
Yep, seems interesting.
Public voting, redditocracy! Or find out on the way - āfuck around and find outā.
My favourite NFT gets all the points, thatās for sure.
these card games seem to find a balance
even though theres loads of em
It would be cool though
To choose from all their abilities how to handle a challenge
And then have like a dice roll
or it might just turn into a fighting game lol
that could be seperate
Sekhmet I choose you!
That doesnāt look like a Sapienmed item
Ooof⦠double whammy.
I hadnāt known much of either of them for very long. I had only started looking into magick in depth after settling in with the use of morphic fields here.
Iāve read and listened more to Pete than to Gordon, but Iāve appreciated their insights. I hope they have an afterlife that exceeds their hopes and expectations.
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Thatās a good one. Master Nan was a rare national treasure.
As far as I know he didnāt say it, but itās a modern classic zen saying āEat right, Exercise daily, Die anyways.ā For better or worse, death eventually smiles at us all in one form or another. Although, if the immortal path is successful, it will end in light rather than just separating from the body.
But thatās the core of things. To focus on the basics and not to get carried away by side matters.
Thatās an interesting forum. Perilous if you take anyoneās opinion too seriously. I used to visit there in a previous life, when just getting started with things. It was mostly a waste of time since people care more about their own opinions and clingings rather than getting to the truth of matters. But many lessons were learned through the school of hard knocks.
When I was a reader there, I focused more on logic, mathematics, and philosophy because I had to sort through the various opinions and mistaken views that people had. I was gaslit into not trusting any energetic perceptions that I had, so that seemed the only way to navigate things. And, step by step, I eventually was able to find immutable reference points to chart a course through energetic anatomy and the Taoist alchemical process.
Itās interesting⦠Iāve had a number of completion experiences in this last year. When looking on This site (the ES forum), I found a lot more extended energetic things. People didnāt really talk about teachings, they were all focused on getting something out of Dream with field projects. So I got to see different schools that people were drawing from when they created field ideas. It was a lot easier to jump through resources using natural intuition and the energetic sense of things. I was able to make more rapid progress with understanding the landscape and psychic/energetic terrain, though my perception is still a bit cloudy.
A key resource that I found early on (before any online engagements) was Leibniz. I liked him because he packaged Mystical and Christian ideas into a formal framework that would appear to be respectable to the standards of science that people like these days. But I drifted away when I dived into the Taoist things more deeply. He does that thing where we make true statements without giving a clear idea about what is going on in a real-world mechanical sense. So it was a working with ideas instead of direct experiental facts. I moved even further away from his works when I was here and navigating mostly by sense and intuition.
But, now that Iāve jumped through various mystical traditions, I have a better sense about how things are unified. And I am recognizing that I fractured my mind in places in the past in order to deal with a lack of information and a lack of clarity.
Although I was swearing off book buying, Iāve picked up a small Leibniz translation of the Monadology⦠it was an interesting homecoming experience. He was a consolation at the beginning of my journey because he helped me get a sense that energetic phenomena were not only real, but rational and amenable to scientific understanding. And all these years later, I can appreciate the many facets of his worldview. I have better knowledge of the Taoist tradition, the Siddha tradition, some of the Tibetan traditions, Mystical Islam, Kaballah, Buddhism from India, Thailand, China, and Japan, ā various forms of mystical Christianity, as well as theosophy and other strands of western magick and mysticism. Here, at the end of so many years, I can appreciate the generality and abstractness of what he put together, because it has the scope to actually apprehend and systematize all the things I learned in these various traditions.
Itās neat⦠and fulfilling. But I am also at the limits of my working memory lol. I settle in on one-to-three traditions, and important ideas from others recede from my awareness for a while lol. Maybe one day Iāll write things down.
For now, I can see/feel how things fit together.
The Neidan process still sits in a unique place. Almost all traditions get their teachings from a type of channelled revelation. Even the later writings in Taoism (post- Lao-Chuang). But the Taoist tradition had a specific history where the being who delivered the message had completed their ascension on earth beforehand. So many other traditions will give unending visualizations, invocations, declarations, and whatever else. But the in-the-body knowledge is something of key importance and most donāt have it in an un-distorted form.
The 5-to-3-to1 only happens in stillness:
If the body is a prism, the light of the soul refracts in specific ways to animate it. It is the total turning around of the light that brings things to unity. The Hun, the Po, the Body, the Spirit, and the Immutable Thought or pure/true Will all need to be still and oriented correctly internally.
Getting clear about this helps to see how all traditions are related, and even how modern science may be harmonized with the understanding of things.
Anyways⦠random thought for today.
Me: So, can you please clarify? This is a lot.
Joe Dispenza: For sure! Space. In space, behind space, surrounded by space.
Me: ā¦Right.
JD: And itās in space.
Me: The space⦠is in space?
JD: Surrounded by space in space, yes.
Me: Uhā¦
JD: FEEL IT!
(I was gifted one of his meditations. IYKYK.)
Yeah his āspaceā comments in meditations are a hoot! I hope you are enjoying the meditation ![]()
A few years ago I would do one of his meditations every morning after yoga. They helped the workday immensely.
I came to conclusion thatā¦if you can hold your attention on a space (any space) and be aware of it, imagine how well it will develop your ability to put your awareness/focus on anything in lifeā¦
It will be super easy to switch full attention and be aware of abundance, desired outcomes etc
Out of curiosity, have you heard of Heavenly Essence Qigong (heqigong dot com)? If yes what do you think of them? They claim to offer a proper system to develop the yang shen body.
I had not looked into them. It looks like they didnāt have much online presence until a few years ago, so that might be the reason.
Itās always awkward when giving an opinion about groups that are out there. I donāt intend to offend when I judge a certain way, and I also like to keep an open mind to learning new things and seeing where I may have overlooked some information.
Just looking at their site, they look to be good. Meditation and fasting are big things, Neigong and Neidan are distinct and not the same. There are levels of shen. The mission with virtues and principles looks goodā¦
The progression in the course looks generally good. Levels 1-4 appear to be a very good range of preparation work, but they donāt get get into Neidan.
Some of the preliminaries of neidan show up in level 5.
But their big selling point is being able to elicit the yang shen early and also mature the yang shen in 3 years. And this is supposedly how that level is described:
Thatās where it gets weird for me because, structurally, thatās where culture and technique doesnāt matter much. Thatās where the basic mechanics of how the spirit links to the body are involved. So⦠in literally every other tradition on the planet, that phase is where lots of mystical talk about ānon-doingā or āsurrendering your will to the divineā shows up because itās the withdrawal of the personal Will that actually causes the conditions and substances to become viable in the āGreat Workā. Thatās when all traditions literally become the same thing because it has to do with what you are in a fundamental and structural way and how it develops when your mind and will are not agitating anything āso no additions by the mind, imagination, or technique (except to consolidate transitions that occur spontaneously).
Itās a phase seems to unavoidably move at itās own pace and is not really anything that we could consciously bypass or speed up. The specific ratios of what accumulates is what leads to the stable development of later phases.
Usually, if thereās a dedicated practice regimen, youād be looking at 10 years and not 3. And that would be especially true since the yang shen is delicate in the development phase and youāll usually be urged to not force or quicken anythingā¦
So⦠Iām not sure what to think. I donāt want to rule out that they are genuine. They are definitely able to cultivate energy and psychic ability to varying levels. And I do believe they could give a solid foundation for neidan. But the information I am seeing as they get closer to actually discussing neidan is a bit troubling for me.
Maybe itās for marketing. After the Yang Shen first emerges naturally, it can mature in 3 years. But the related developments that lead to the yang shen can stretch that timeframe by a lot.
Their outline is very scrunched, but after checking how the classics named things, it could potentially line up with everything.
The idea of making the yang shen emerge as a technique rather than as a natural development seems a bit off, and the presentation of 3 years as a time to maturity seems somewhat unrealistically optimistic (unless that time frame is considered completely apart from all of the work that leads up to it). But, they could potentially have all the steps and techniques.
Some of the terms and background ideas differ, but it looks like it can cover all of the bases. Some of the more awkward subjects donāt seem to be mentioned outright in their outline, but I assume that it is for proprietyās sake.
āIt took some winding analysis on my part, but it could very well be a complete system. Itās just the marketing of things as āhigh speedā strikes me as strange.
Gordon White (Rune Soup) has passed away.
I was not part of any of his communities but his videos always showed up when I was struggling with those kind of questions that are tricky to put into words. And those videos of his always had the answer or at least something helpful. I am genuinely sad.
Yes. I kind of like this new (new to me) louder style of his (āfeel it! fall in love with it!ā). Gentle mumbling just lulls me to sleep, heh.
Very true. All that space confused me at first but I think Iām getting the hang of it now. Iāve enjoyed the different modes of focus.
