Thank you for your in depth answer. I always appreciate your posts, as you are extremely knowledgeable.
I dont have much time as of now so im just doing basic daily meditations so im not going to start this anytime soon but when I stumbled across that website I was very curious because it seemed to be too good to be true lol.
Because generally these things seem to be very inaccessible to westerners. So I was very surprised to see something that was supposedly a complete roadmap.
There are some red flags for me in their process, but there is a lot of good stuff. Since I donāt like to bash things unless I know for certain thereās an issue,
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EDIT: I have just discovered the testimony of someone who claimed to have birthed their yang shen from this schoolā¦ and they have no knowledge of how to gather the inner alchemical agent that it is supposed to be made out ofā¦ I am leaning away from giving the benefit of a doubt in this case. It sounds like they may have a strongly qi-fortified yin shen but not an actual yang shen.
Anyways, the actual method isnāt really a secret these days:
When I was getting started with research, things were a lot less accessible. But, these days, there are actually a decent number of good resources.
Jerry Alan Johnson has good and systematic information ā he covers a whole range of things in Chinese mystical culture, including things not compatible with Neidan. But the Neidan chapters are good.
In recent years, it looks like Vitaly Filbert of Zhen Dao Pai has been on a publishing spree with various Taoist classics and commentaries. There are a lot of good things there, through the whole series.
Wang Liping is the Real Deal and more explanatory works have emerged from his students. He wrote the Ling Bao Tong Zhi Neng Nei Gong ShuāI would trust Liaoās edition above the Bartosh rendering, but either would benefit greatly from consulting the Quanzhen Classics. --Most of the focus in the book is on the preparatory work, so the dialog of Zhong and Lu and the Secret of the Golden Flower would help more with understanding the internal developments of Neidanā Filbertās Ling Bao Bifa would be good too since Wang Lipings instructions were a distillation from it).
Taoist Yoga - Alchemy and Immortality has been a monolith with technically all the information that a male person needs (some additional resources would be helpful for femalesāthe best that Iāve seen has been Filbertās volume 19 and Clearyās Immortal Sisters).
There are indeed mistaken groups out there that teach misleading or wrong information. But, if a person has a basic moral compass, it should be easy to see through the worst of those.
I think the biggest issues these days are either ābeginner mistakesā-- construing relatively limited energy phenomena with high level attainments ā or people not wanting to actually commit to the relatively monotonous rigor of training.
There were a few groups that I found that were from good lineages. Quanzhen Longmen, and some others. But they tended to write neidan off as too much work and they just focused on the taiji chuan and the social side of martial arts and ritual.
Other qigong groups tend to focus on healing, which is great but the focus is usually on forms and levels of energy body manipulation and people tend to get stuck on that and misunderstand the higher levels.
The information is out there-- but a group that is really serious about the higher levels is rare.
Note: a revision has been made to my initial written opinion at the top of this post.
Is an egregore a morphic field ?
Both terms tend to have widely varying definitions.
By some accounts, probably not. A āmorphic fieldā tends to be considered as something with tighter programming and less volition. An egregore tends to be like a super-structure of energetic intelligence that is usually adaptable outside of specific programmed constraints.
But they could probably be considered on a continuum about levels of self-awareness and levels of tightness in patterns/programs that define them.
Orā¦ by other accounts entirely, we could say anything and everything either is or has a morphic field. It depends on chosen definitions.
Was hittin my chest the other day at a 45 degree incline, and felt it in my traps. Then I remembered this video, and boy does it make senseā¦ 
Thatās a good oneā¦
I have been too sedentary in recent years from an office job. I made an early adaptation to that by having mostly just one meal a day, so I didnāt really gain much weightā¦ I may have even gained some muscle since I wasnāt overtraining like I had been in earlier years lol.
But, even so, it seems my hips changed from all the office chair sitting. So Iāve been getting back into daily exercise and giving more attention to orthopaedic and rehabilitation-like exercises.
Iāve been re-balancing my worldviewā¦
For many years, it was a fight to just understand what a true and correct meditation and personal development protocol would be. --Not in the sense of something being āright for meā, but in the sense of finding something that could meaningfully work on all the layers of existence within the natural span of life.
Most things wonāt really reach all of those levelsā¦
But, being stable in my own view and chosen process, I can look out with more even-mindedness.
Early on, I would virtually throw a lot of ideas and āspiritualā subjects into the garbage bin because they didnāt reach to important levels and, for me, would waste a lot of time on things that didnāt matter. Iād be angry with different teachings and practices because I could see their limits and problems and was dissatisfied with how trying to learn with or from people on those paths didnāt really help me with the specific issues I was trying to solve.
But I am trying to view things in light of the specific Lotus/Surangama sutra dichotomy.
It has been said that the Surangama leads to enlightenment but the Lotus leads to Buddhahood. --The surangama was a sort of reform, meditation-focused sutra that originated around the Tang dynasty. I think it was a bit prophetic about how teachings became slanted in later generations.
I think itās necessary to have that strict and āhard coreā approach to trying to keep a true sense of the the most āstraight-to-the-sourceā spiritual path alive. But it also frequently picks up a sort of dour and judgmental veneer because it cuts through norms that lead to laxity and, of necessity, is a bit strict and confrontational.
But, on the opposite side, we can see the Lotus sutra. Which has a wonderful, communal, open-and-flowing heart energy about it. It does well with orienting the mind towards positive things and outcomes. I recall getting some of that vibe in William Bodriās writings in the pastā¦ I am planning on trying to integrate more of it.
Iāve been trying to get a read on all of the energetic developments Iāve been seeing on the planet and in the āspiritualā groups these days. Despite all the chaos, there do seem to be real steps forward. The whole New Age view of the Melchezedek Order / Great White Brotherhood helping to develop the planet seems like a parallel to the Bodhisattva consciousness/mission collective in the east, which strives to push for the enlightenment and liberation of everyone.
I havenāt really felt too much of a connection to the New Age things. They seem to match more of the Lotus-Sutra-Like communal things. My own views tend towards the more harsh Surangama-Sutra-Style requirements for total personal transformation lol. Itās been tough to try and reconcile a personal fidelity to timelessly true teachings with the provisional and changing activities that are propagated to help a wider range of people and reach them where they are now.
Iām still working on it
Hahaha
That would have been a good ideaā¦ sadly it has nowhere near the level of power and scope that is needed for the problems that exist here and in the current āmorphic fieldā economy.
Whenever I write something, I like to have the mindset of looking for whatās best in the situation. If people ask questions, I assume they want honest answersā¦ If people seek spirituality, it should be because they at least accept the general premise of itā that it exists to change their lives and that they should try to match the elevated spirit of it.
But so much is just rotten.
People read without reciprocating, or they take information that was designed to elevate them beyond their current life patterns and instead run off to someone who might be able to implant a fragment of that process in their energy body. Itās viewed as an add-on to the dysfunctions they refuse to grow beyond instead of a true remedy for their dysfunctions.
Things where the basic criterion for access is a modicum of respectā a bare minimum sacrifice of time to just settle into the information and honor what it is really about. And instead, people are greedy to take whatever sounds appealing in whatever way they can.
And that is to avoid making any reference at all to the strange things people blend in with their creations. Using spirits to help form etheric structures, or siphoning energies, weird ideological slants that are incorporated. ā Youād need to be able to psychically audit things from at least 5 vantage points to get a real sense of whatās out there these days.
I know thatās not the totality of what exists. There are good things and good people as well. But thatās not the majority of what exists. The best motivations were present at the beginning of this but the whole thing, as a phenomenon, has taken a weird turn.
Dream was the smart oneā leaving while he was ahead with that Last Cigar.
I was planning on holding out until Dreamās birthday so I could drop a post in the old thread, but I think Iāll jump out again.
I assume many of you can easily create fields by now. So I was wondering how others were using āthe giftā¢ā, and if they are avoiding to use it at all, why?
In the case of other people, is it so the fields donāt connect with you or?
In my case, I notice a resistance to make fields indiscriminately and a āprice to payā for them. Also Iām just not skillful enough, so the more reason to only make them very carefully in proper conditions.
It seems as if despite all these āadvancesā, we have to respect certain timings similar to doing rituals and such.
And yeah, I donāt want to be negative but being in these circles attract the wrong kind of attention.
But if some day I decide to create and release some fields I guess Iād do it here.
This made my whole morning. She looks like a baby kittie version of āChun Liā lmfaoā¦ And her oblivious expressions just 
Opposums are so cute and sweet. They always get bad reps here in the States, but people donāt even give them a chance. 
Really cool moment:
Walking outside I suddenly hear a song from the Kill Bill soundtrack. I stop walking and listen in. Itās from the scene when the heroine receives her custom made katana.
Itās quite meaningful in the context. A synchronicity for sure. Thinking about the symbolism, the scene in which she gets the new katana, even though sheās already a skilled master, here she is a student again. Thereās honor in the way that the master craftsman was in retirement, but did her a final favor by designing his most stunning pristine work.
Itās most definitely a rite of passage. At the same time itās a heroās journey, as she will use the katana to take revenge on those who wronged her.
Itās also manifestation: her desire to take revenge, her tool to make it happen (katana) and the desired outcome, making it happen with the tool. A skilled samurai merges in consciousness with the katana. So sheās using consciousness to pursue and attain her goal.
For me this synchronicity says to me Iām ready for the next step.
Do we have a thread on synchronicity?
Ah yes we do!
remembering the good old times
i wonder if this will get better
