Spirethion Max (Frontier Series)

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Your craving should reduce, but if anything those drugs will be more potent and intense

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Conceptual Conglomerate will give you insights in “what to do”.

This field here will give you the “neurochemical drive and motivation to do it”.

So I would get CC first, so that you first actually know “what” to do.

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There might be definitely some people who are at risk of abusing this field (Gooners and Goonettes).
Because these people are in a state where they have fetishized their addiction.
And because of this fetishization, they believe that their addiction is the best thing that ever happened to them.
It is a type of heavy self-sabotage that is consciously rationalized to themselves by sexualizing it and by the mis-use of sexual triggers in order to keep the self-sabotaging addiction in place and not to get rid of it. A vicious cycle – powered by the most addictive thing: sexual pleasure.

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I am not a brain expert, but I think the addiction comes from DeltaFosB:
A molecule through which the brain remembers the source of the high dopamine.
It takes 3 days until the DeltaFosB is no longer in the body in that high amount after it has been created.
Until then, this DeltaFosB molecule will trigger the brain to seek out the dopamine from those sources from which it remembers them.
Which is the reason why people come back again and again to the same drug when chasing their dopamine high.

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We can’t be liable for that haha

I guess they won’t mind getting more pleasure out of their addiction then

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WOW!

This looks like a completely overpowered field.

Captain and Dr_Manhattan literally hacking the Matrix here!

This is the one field to get in order to be “high on life” at all times.

But it also comes with responsibility.
Because life also comes with addictive substances.

So you guys better delete all computer games, all your remaining porn, get rid of your sex toys, delete the phone number of your sexy girlfriend, cancel your local prostitute and escort subscription, terminate Netflix, delete all social media apps, trash all your sugar-containing foods and booze, declutter your VR glasses, delete all your shopping bookmarks etc. …you get the idea!

Why?

Because if you don’t get rid of everything addicitive before looping this field, you are at high risk of doing something that will not serve you in the long-term.

Because like a new born child who sees everything in the world for the first time and finds enjoyment and excitement in everything, you will find anjoyment in everything.
Everything will appear “like new” and like novelty to you – all the time, lol.

I guess, this is new “permanent childlike wonder” field.

I don’t have this yet, but I am predicting it will feel like being high on coffeine while looping Dopamine Redux, i.e. a state of high concentration, motivation and excitement, with the plot twist that it will stay this way forever!

So from my understanding on how to work with this field:

  1. Get rid of everything addictive
  2. Make a list of projects to work on
  3. Loop this field and ONLY do projects from this list
  4. Then pray that the next sexy girl on the street who smiles at you does not occupy your thoughts permamently lol

@dr_manhattan: If this too much fear mongering, I can rewrite my post.

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That’s a good way to put it

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Well, it makes doing good and bad things more pleasurable, but I think it does help compensating and reducing cravings.

One of the main reasons people get dépendant is because they are desensitized and develop a dépendance. Everything else sucks now.

This does help weening off drugs and bad habits.

If I wanted to stop doing drugs, I would likely use this to reduce cravings and enjoy new habits to form.

I think the ability to enjoy more everything else in your life on a deeper levels more than make up for the increase in pleasure from addictions assuming that there is a will to stop.

Withdrawal is the main ennemie to some degree, this reduces that a lot and also your life gets a new meaning.

Facing withdrawals, plus feeling like everything else sucks and the only way to make it stop is drugs is a major factor in relapse.

During withdrawal, it’s not just the detoxing and sickness of it, movies suck, music suck, people suck, food sucks, you wonder how can people live without the drugs. Everything is boring. You don’t really have an option, forcing yourself to like something doesn’t work when your body screams for something else with a physical change caused by the drug. It changes who you are biologically.

It feels like you are making all these efforts for people or something external to some degree. Sure you are killing yourself but at least it’s a little bit fun, it can seem worth it.

You do something and your body adapt and become that thing to some degree.

You quit drugs, you have to form new habits. That’s hard when you don’t feel invested and or enjoying that habit and it has to fight a very real system of network in your brain that is designed for you to shoot the drugs and you know it feels good deep down. That’s the only thing in your life that feels good. Your body and mind are designed to chase pleasures, that’s what pleasure is, a primitive guidance mechanism.

Pleasure and pain, reward and punishment, that’s how with limited awareness and cognitive abilities primitive organisms progress on their journeys.

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Bought it!
Im ready to become high on life xp.

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I guess, this field will also act as an insta-healer for men with PIED (porn-induced erectile dysfunction) and for women with PIIW (porn-induced impotence in women).
Since these problems are also based on dopamine-receptor desentization.
This field could act as a real marriage saver!

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I’m not entirely sure how that works, what’s the issue at play here. I can guess you’re wired to enjoy masturbation more with all its visual and parasocial rewarding.

I don’t know

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I use productivity powerhouse daily - would it be dopamine overload to also use Spirethion?

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Worst case scenario, you have the same benefits as powerhouse all day, everyday of your life plus more with the serotonin and opioid.

Actually there was an old alertness item a couple of years before the forum that used endorphins to keep working longer. So there would also be similar benefits with this. I lost my item but it was awesome.

I wouldn’t worry about dopamine overdose too much unless you plan on using hard drugs etc and even then, one hit doesn’t necessarily turn you into an addict. Occasional use would also be enhanced.

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@Dr_Manhattan Is the permanency in this one based on mRNA or is it “permanent permanent” i.e. genotype change? Thanks.

@JAAJ
no mRNA, no Genotype changes.

It overexpress the genes for these receptors and provide the structural substitutions of amino acids in their structures, ones that won’t permit phosphorylation but will not touch the efficiency of the pathway activations.

I said it was permanent because once the changes are made, they will stay mutated and in place for a very long time. Unless there is direct damage it will be with you forever.

Keep in mind that permanent does not mean indestructible or “immortal”, still the problem is rarely damage but the deactivation and internalization of the receptors to achieve homeostasis that backfires in the long term by overreacting to modern lifestyles.

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It basically pays for itself

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The bigger concern (albeit quite small nonetheless) would be for very ambitious people, if one decides that life is good as it is, there will be far less reasons not only to seek activities with higher gratification, but also work towards higher standards of living or goals or whatever is imagined to bring this higher gratification baseline, because it will be already there.

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I have to say, the art work for this is absolutely epic! Easily the best so far

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I have to say that when I have a final decision on which field I have to save money for, Manhattan manages to always make me doubt about it. now I’m thinking about emotional mastering 2.0, but this seems so good and should help with mood and the idea of having strong receptors that don’t desensitize seems sci-fi (I’m someone who probably needs this cause i feel this craving for the smartphone or other stimulations and has to search some drops of motivation under the sofa in order to study well). but I’m happy because it means that Manhattan always drops incredible fields so i can only write congratulations cause i think it’s hard to always put the level higher and he manages to do it.

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Good luck on this @Gnosticmedic27. We are rooting for your success!

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