Nope, it doesn’t work on past lives. Only on your past on this life
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Just a question but is it possible that things from past lives would effect the past in this life so that while not directly but in some way it works on past lives?
I was just interested in the mechanism on that
Not hoping it would work on past lives
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Well if you want to get technical… if past life karmas have had an effect on your past and this works on your past, then yeah it does work on it to that extent.
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Ok, thanks for the clarification. It is still a tremendous field.
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I only used that part of your post for brevity but so agree with everything you wrote! 
And it is so pervasive too that even knowing this I still find myriad of ways in which I limit myself (one of them being how much time things should take, either doing or undoing).
Not to stray too far from the post but I realised something a little while ago that is so stupidly obvious but for some reason hadn’t clicked in all its simplicity. I was often wondering if this or that was resistance, which would mean I had some releasing/shifting to do. But one day it dawned on me. Anything unwanted (be it emotions, thoughts or situations) is 100% resistance, always. If our inner wisdom/source/all that is/etc is the current through which we experience vitality, elation, joy, abundance, etc anything that is less than that is us introducing resistance to that current. And it simplified and detramatised everything. Everything is just a matter of finding a way to be pulled towards what I desire rather than pushing against what I don’t.
So every time the word “discipline” is mentioned, I think “ah, that method/tool/school of thought makes things needlessly hard and complicated” and I look for something else.
And at times I still require discipline because that’s my easiest path towards something I want, with my current beliefs. But that just shows me that I need to work on the beliefs so I can eventually find a way to do it in joy instead
End of soliloquy! 
Me too! When I saw the overwhelmingly positive testimonial for this field, I considered getting it. Here’s my conclusion for now, at my current level of understanding of what these two things do (up for revisiting if anyone cares to chime in). This field seems to focus on releasing traumas and related negativity from the past. However, there can be many limiting beliefs that aren’t born in trauma or negativity per say**. With the Light Collapser, it’s possible to release virtually anything.
The advantage of this field is that it’s automated. However to me, the advantage of the Light Collapser is that its applications are limitless. So I decided to stick with the Light Collapser for the time being 
**One could argue that any resistance being negative, it comes down to the scope of the field. I.e. does it release everything negative, including any and all dysfunctional behaviours/beliefs. If so, it would change my conclusion!
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Thank you @Amber3
Fully agree!
Manifestation teachers talk about this all the time.
People create their own resistance by feeling bad, complaining and chasing “negative dopamine” or “anger porn”. And/or the people are not aware that they picked up all those negative beliefs from others that make up this resistance.
As an example, why complaining creates so much resistance in manifestation is because when one is complaining, one basically tells the universe and one’s own subconscious mind…
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…that one is only responsible for having manifested the positive stuff in one’s life, but not negative stuff. This creates a cognitive dissonance where one gives up internal power about ever being able to change the negative stuff in the first place!
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… that one is disconnected from one’s own manifestational power and can’t change anything about negative stuff, hence the “need to complain”. The subconscious mind listens to this message and then executes by disconneting one from one’s own manifestational power even more!
The result is then that people create even more of the things they complain about. And that they literally feel powerless about being able to change their situation.
All done on purpose by the way – the negative forces don’t want people to be connected to their own holy power.
Yes.
It all comes down to going the path of least resistance.
Which is the path of feeling good all the time about the stuff that you want to manifest.
Plus, the shadow integration a.k.a. making unconscious beliefs conscious and replacing them with postive ones.
Both of these things are almost NEVER mentioned in any YouTube or Coaching video. They will mention everything from “hard work” to “persistence” to “the right way to study” etc.
They will never mention that you are manifesting your personal reality through your feelings. And they will never mention that the only work that you need to do is to clean up and reprogram your subsconscious mind.
Action is only needed when it comes from internal inspiration to act.
Yeah, as mentioned above this is done on purpose 
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People are not aware that they are manifesting EVERYTHING in their lives.
So their OWN POWER IS INVERTED AGAINST THEM, by making them manifest a path of difficulties and struggle.
One of my manifestation teachers always says “If it feels like work, you are doing it wrong”. And he is absolutely right on this.
Aha, I see. Thank you very much.
So this field here takes the emotional energy out of past experiences.
While the Light Collapser can be applied to thoughs as well.
I will probably get the Light Collapser in the near future too – just first need to fully understand the concept of why something needs “to be collapsed” instead if simply “replaced”…?!?
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I recently got back into Abraham Hicks after moving away from them for a while to study other teachings. Re-experiencing Abraham with a fresh set of eyes was so wonderful, because it really made me appreciate how they word their message and it activated new levels of understanding in me.
100% agree 
I think that Crucible of the Past and Light Collapser work similiar in the sense that both approaches can use both the thought as well as the feeling as the entry point.
- Collapse/release/reframe a thought → clear a little bit of the feeling
- Collapse/release a feeling. → release a multitude of connected thoughts at once
I agree with Amber that with the Light Collapser, the applications are virtually unlimited, however it requires focus and awareness of the problem you want to tackle, it’s not an automated process.
As for why you should want to collapse instead of replace; you are right that we could simply replace anything that doesn’t serve us, but wouldn’t it be easier to ‘collapse’ and then ‘insert’?
With replacing something there is risk of, depending on the subject and emotional intensity you have regarding the subject, putting two opposing forces together and willing one of them to dominate the other.
It could very well be that you are able to focus and release at a high level by yourself, in that case replacing might work very well for you, and you wouldn’t necessarily need the Light Collapser.
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Not to make this post into a conversation about the light collapser but I just had to say that that’s not been my experience I can simply say “this thought/feeling (which can be physical as well)” and even just direct my focus to what I want to collapse and it does it for me. No need to know what it is, why it is or where it comes from. That makes it an exceptional tool for me
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Thank you.
I still have a ton of open questions about “collapsing emotions” and what it exactly means. I guess I will need to do more research and ask Angelgome as well…
- Why is the positive side collapsed together with the negative?
- Why is this necessary in the first place?
- If the positive side is collapsed as well, then the existing positive stuff is removed too?
- What about positive affirmations that have been installed from life-long subliminals use?
- Neutralizing the positive together with the negative sounds kind of counter-productive?
- Will one become with the Light Collapser an emotionally empty page?
- Does one then need to re-install all the positive emotions / subliminal affirmations again?
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Post these questions in the course! It’ll be really interesting to read the answers 
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Apologies, I wasn’t clear enough in my post 
I mentioned it in direct comparison to the Crucible of the Past. I meant it in the sense that CotP helps you reframe your past both emotionally and mentally, and based on the reviews it allows stuff to come up, which then it works on immediately. In my use of CotP I haven’t had things come up during the listening, only a sense of inexplicable relief.
If one would want to use the Light Collapser for the same purpose, it needs a more deliberate approach. And with focus and awareness, I definitely not meant to imply effort 
. It is a wonderful tool! Glad that you are enjoying it as well!
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Just a drive-by to say (as @JAAJ already knows): “Not mine.”
(I can’t take credit for anyone else’s good work.)
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I don’t have the same level of understanding as Angel or many here, but here’s my take on it:
Any concept has two polarities, where the positive might be considered as beneficial. However the concept in itself is neutral and is in a way limited by the expression of the two polarities. By collapsing the whole concept, it allows the concept to grow to new levels, that you may have not had the room for previously.
In AH terms: it’s step 5, where we go back to step 1 and embrace the contrast, because our natural state is one of growth, even in the concepts where we think we are completely satisfied.
We won’t become voids when we collapse, because of our natural urge to grow further and continue to explore the leading edge. New concepts will take their place, often more expansive ones.
Regarding subliminals/affirmations:
Let’s take wealth as an example. When you collapse the concept of wealth, both negative and positive polarities are collapsed. What is left is just the neutral concept of wealth. It is in a way the most resitance-free state of the concept, because both polarities introduce oppossing forces.
When you have a resistance-free concept of wealth, you would likely only need to introduce a subliminal or affirmation once or twice, because there is no resitance to it.
Hope I expressed it well enough
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I got you! Thanks for specifying And yes, I completely agree, it is a most wonderful tool! I love-love-love it!
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Agreed, a great channel! One of my favorites for Abe content ;)
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Everyone please keep on topic. This thread is about
The Crucible of the Past.
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I know it’s off-topic but anyone else with me in thinking that @SilverZuzu would make a great moderator?
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We are comparing the similarities and differences between the concepts behind Crucible of the Past and Light Collapser.
Discussion about a field’s similarities and differences to other fields is fully on topic 
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And the postings about Abraham Hicks work on this thread?
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