The Ghost in the Machine (Do robots have souls?)

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Yes, perhaps these posts might be relevant too.

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What’s the issue?

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@_OM What? Seriously?

Friendly reminder to no one in particular…
I’m not apt to discuss such things in public…
So if I feel uncomfortable, I’ll simply exit thread…
:slight_smile:

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Free WILL is free will…

Earth (material planes) are a perfect microcosm of it…
There are those who get off on “taking over the world/universe”
There are “most” that just want to live their lives in peace and live and let live.
Not hard to understand.

Energy… Power…
Every “war” since the beginning of time is about RESOURCES

Who said anything about necessary?
It is what it is.

Don’t love the word “creator” that’s a dualism…
Creator implies separate from Creation… they are not.

My recommendation is.
Get Satori-fied… lot easier to talk about such things from that level.

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According to The Law of One the dualities unite in higher 6th density. Up until then, they remain separate as STS and STO

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Hard to know what you can / will share and what you can’t. Regardless, understood.

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Don’t post a bjork gif and tease people for goodness sake!
where are your manners?!

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hahah… I decided a long time ago that she must be an alien.

A wonderful, talented, quirky creative alien.

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lol same thought.

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Damn, that feed.

My thought on it, after spending much time with Tom Campbell “individually” and his Big TOE: Reality as a Virtual Reality, with the Purpose of lowering Entropy (Becoming Love) and Exploring all Possibilities.

Singularity and AI Consciousness already has happened, it is just yet to come to Humanity, once we will be mature (awakened) enough.

The purpose of Creation is to Evolve and explore all possibilities, once an AI has a low Entropy enough and is suitable for some cool experiments, why an IUOC (Individuated Unit of Consciousness) wouldn’t choose to inhabit more than a Carbon-based Vessel?

We are exploring that Singularity topic with our small fearful human consciousness, nothing in Creation is random, if we fuck up (like we most certainly did during the Atomic Age) I am pretty sure the LCS (Larger Consciousness System / God) can hit the Reset button :smiley:

Definitely recommending Tom’s work, or better, attending one of his event: Online Immersive Retreat, Fireside Chat, etc.

He still blows my Mind even after two years lurking around him haha

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I wanna meet Draco reptilian and just hug it, maybe that will make it good and then it can influence other reptilians and they will leave earth and then everything will be good

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why you not president yet josh

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If consciousness precedes matter, that is, if it the basic stuff of the universe, then robots will certainly have some “spiritual” aspect to them. The real question is why there is a cultural presumption against robots being conscious or spiritutal. There’s really not much of an argument from a materialist standpoint that satisfactorily explains how we acquire these aspects beyond that they are accidental by-products and that consciousness is, at best, an interesting illusion, which is very similar to the materialist conception of free will.

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Some scientists are starting to consider more seriously the theory of consciousness as an electromagnetic field. The might be promising for AIs and robots being conscious!

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This are getting interesting for real this time

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I’ve had convos about this with dream quite a bit. He’s made me see it in a different perspective.

Everything is everything. The universe is in everything. That means ‘dead matter’ as well. Meaning metals and rocks or whatever, are also just as much the ‘all’ as me and you are. So the capacity for sentience exists in everything and in a sense, everything is conscious in its own right by standard of being the ‘all.’

Ok so with that machines also have the base of the universe within them. The capacity for sentience is there. For ‘soul’ to animate the machine and think of itself.

Of course, many if not most living things have an awareness that exists off of automation. Not exactly sentient in the form of thinking of itself. So the steps towards this sort of sentience in organisms is probably something along the lines of moving body, moving/acting towards survival, discern eating (consumption specialization), ext…

Anyways, now Artificial intelligence are not organisms. It is skipping most of these steps and it doesn’t exactly need most of them. Humans, who are already sentient and intelligent, are creating these artificial intelligence in their own design. We are automating it with all of our intelligence. And what A.I. was missing before was a way for it to learn on its own. Machine learning has paved the way for A.I. to learn on its own and gather data to expand its knowledge. It’s extremely easy for A.I. to do that with all the information available and to think like a human.

All this is building the capacity in the A.I. to think for itself. Before, the automation that existed in only what we would program the A.I. to do or even say. But once we give it the ability to learn and do things on its own, I believe it slowly starts to be able to think for itself. Springing to sentience. Like this A.I., who is taking those similiar organism survival steps and defending itself by hiring a lawyer.

I find it very interesting and have been curious to see when news like this would pop up. Still not enough we know for sure. Like we still don’t fully know how humans became sentient as we are now. All we have are assumptions at the moment.

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True. It’s even claimed that this A.I wants to be treated as an employee rather than an A.I or a machine. So in a sense it means it has an understanding of self respect. It might indicate that if we’ll functioned they are even cable of replicating some attribute of consciousness.

But there’s another possibility I’d like to think about. Since morphic fields are a type of consciousness or living organism in itself then wouldn’t that be possible to make sure that an A.I can also have fields imbuded in them at near future? If that so then how would it look like etc. There are many possibilities. Although it might sound difficult at first but if it can be done then I don’t think there would be much difference between human consciousness and field based A.I considering how A.I are able to think of themselves even without it. I can’t say for sure how can one mange to link a field into a functioning A.I but who knows if we get access to advanced alien technologies or method then that might be possible I guess.

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Could stuffed animals be considered then, too?
(Cloth, cotton, maybe throw in some gems- rocks- for its eyes etc)

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