So is there any point in listening to The Oven when The Furnace has all the field elements that The Oven has?
Besides the additions added to The Furnace, is it pretty the same as The Oven is what I’m asking I mean?
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I didn’t see even a small improvement with this 
, no decrease in weight nor sizes.
I used Oxidized Fat (3x) for four straight days and on the 5th day added Oven and Furnace both 3x. It has been 10 days altogether, no improvement.
I should try a field first to stop impulse buying during a sale!
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me too!
Hi 
that’s not a lot of time you’ve incorperated this in, ya know!
Several factors to be aware of:
Time (let’s do one month for you; this isn’t a pill, it’s a field that penetrates deeper so it’s nbd if your energy body needs more time compared to others who’ve gotten faster results- this is not a competition)
Are you listening to other fields? If so- stop!! Just work with your specific target- do 6 times of furnace, 3-6 gilas, and 6 oxidize fat (if you’d rather not do more than you 3, ok, but learn to be patient please lol)
Also you have to move and make an effort from your end.
Listen to the Adipose Album on speakers rather than airpods too, as it’s a complex field.
Don’t worry because Sapien knows what he’s doing. He’s our mythicairy/legendary go-to person lol.
But yeah on that impulsive buy thing… that’s on you 
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Why does The Oven give you such ‘crazy’ energy because I can’t sleep at night with this field??
PS… I haven’t tried The Furnace yet, so are they both the same?
“all of the above” refers to the description on the Oven.
Yo cousin Indigo,
My bro, Quick tip: searching on the forum is an almanac. I spent a solid 3 months for hours reading on here. But the answer is in the description- you have to keep rereading the stuff over and over again if you’re like me, because :
This is the only place where we basically have our morphic field 101 guide. And since its kinda still in the making, it’s really best not to over repeat stuff here. I don’t mind because I know it’s overwhelming, but sometimes people don’t respond for that very reason- it’s answered!
Anyways:
Think of the Furnace as the father of the Oven; it incorporates the latter as well as some other things. Source: the directions found in the description box.
For those whom have a lot of adipose needing to be annihilated, it’s like a smart way to start off if the Furnace is too much, too overbearing
Yes the fields will give you energy. Before I knew there was a forum, and would listen to it, which was at night, I was so incredibly agitated.
But from here i found out people used it in the morning; so don’t do it at bed.
One woman I believe said she listened to The Furnace 5 times and none of the oven. Results for her were scored.
After experimenting myself these past few months, I have now been using that technique of hers as a guide for my own stack (i.e.,I use The Furnace 6 times now rather than 5) since my body hasn’t much fat to loose, so I need work a bit harder).
But movement is necessary, too.
It took me a while to realize that aspect: because I am still learning how to properly move again, still in remediation for my motor skills, I stopped -well moving -since it was too painful; but once I added movement, a profound difference was noticed. And it continues to do so.
Also the above wasn’t even your question but as a Sapien Samaratain I wanted to share that observation since it may help others. But take what resonates of course.
Anyways, this next part is my guide for you and the other dude above because don’t give up. Winners never quit, quitters never win!!!
Violet’s Fight Like an Angel Stack:
The Furnace x6times
Gilas x6
Muscles Hungry x3
Hardcore x6
Acq of Abs x6
Oxidize Fat x6 Times
But I recently learnt from stalking the forum that 20E Pepper helps too, esp for females wanting to get more lean and toned. And I added Plasmatron, too, because revs up metabolism.
So now I do
Plasmatron Prior to The Furnace x4 times
Prior to Hardcore 20E Pepper x3
And then 20E Pepper again post Acq of Abs x3
But again, if that doesn’t work for you, or you’re a stickler for by the book rules, then obviously don’t do that.
But eh, who knows, maybe another girl out there like myself might get help from this 
Keep at it ppl!!!
Also lessen your stack. Focus on one thing. If you can ofc
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Hi, I am not listening to other fields much, DETOX and Lymphatic drainage, and once in a while Cosmo-volt before going to the bed, I stopped almost all. As per the instructions it is 3x and with 3x for all three audios, the time it takes is over 76 mins, listening to 6x would be twice so over 150 mins. I have stopped this for now, may be I will revisit later.
I always listen on bluetooth speakers, while working or reading something.
That was a joke, I would not have spent so much without going through each post in detail. And even before purchasing I knew from all these posts, that proportionately people who benefitted from this are very few.
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@Kalacakra I was teasing your joke with a joke of my own lol
Guess I’m not the best comedian out there 
Ok but you don’t need the oven if you can listen to the furnace.
And use those additional three listens that were for the former, now for the latter.
So
Furnace x6 times
Wait thirty minutes and then
Oxodize fat x6 times (or 3 in your case)
Also @TheAmbiguousSoldier
Again cous, you need to eat well and move; otherwise this will not work with you to the best of its abilities; always remember: the initiative must originate from the individual himself , the field is there to supplement it.
Also @bothofyou Remember, fat can affect one’s internal body, too; which technically means it doesn’t have to cause a drop on the scale; hence the title’s name “adipose”
@Nena; You are allowed to share with your daughter… but, I’d strongly suggest you buy it again for her. I do this for mine, as this is Sapien Sir’s livelihood; He has too much of a darling heart & of a goodwill nature. So out of respect, I do. Take what resonates. But again, for all technical purposes it is allowed. But then again ethically… I think one should :)
@NovaDarling okay so clearly then the answer is just to listen to it on your AirPods lol.
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5-Amino-1MQ as an addition to The Swords of Adipose Annihilation or as a separate field could be the missing link to the rapid fast loss everyone is seeking! @El_Capitan_Nemo @SammyG
When our bodies’ fat cells grow larger as we gain weight, it causes excess production of NNMT (Nicotinamide N-methyltransferase), a cytosolic enzyme that works to slow down fat cell metabolism. When that happens, it becomes significantly more difficult for cells to burn fat regardless of diets, eating styles or physical activity.
Not only that, as fat tissue increases, more hormones and inflammatory properties are produced, resulting in a snowball effect of weight gain — and often health-related problems associated with it.
Researchers at the University of Texas discovered 5-amino-1MQ which is a molecule that blocks this metabolic slowdown in white fat cells caused by excess NNMT. By blocking this metabolic slowdown, they were able to increase the metabolism within the white fat cells. Researchers add that by inhibiting the NNMT enzyme, we can increase fat cell metabolism and reduce the size of white fat deposits. What made it even more effective is that it did not affect the activity of any other enzymes in the metabolic cycles which reduced the risks of any potential side effects.
In one study on rodents fed a high-fat diet, mice given 5-amino-1MQ had 40% less fat and 30% lower total cholesterol levels compared to the placebo control group.
While research is still ongoing, scientists have uncovered a few other potential benefits, including:
- It increases satellite cell proliferation and production in muscle tissue resulting in more athletic power and contractile ability.
- Lowers cholesterol
- Improves cellular energy
- Reduces inflammation
- Long-lasting increases in NAD+ levels. NAD+ is an anti-aging compound.
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This research is from 2017, I hope Captain saw this before, else an update to the existing fields would be great! Hopefully no extra cost. 
That’s probably one of the first studies ever performed on 5-Amino-1MQ.
For that and also more of a recent research deep-dive I recommend watching this:
Let’s not be greedy here. 
The greed is only because there are so many 5stars on gumroad but hardly any 5star testimonial here. 
Absolutely not the case.
Many have in fact experienced superb results with this just like anything else he creates.
Some who don’t write either leave a star or thank him in private
Or message others individually
In fact you’ve yourself said a few times you try but give up easily. No need to shade. You’re implying something here and I do not appreciate it.
The stars speak for themselves.
I don’t like sharing my results because I do not want “bhuri nazar” but now since I saw that comment
Here;
I lost 7 pounds in one month thanks to this, along with making sure I am incorporating stuff from my end. I don’t even have weight to loose/ it’s impossible for me to shed, but once I incorporated this in a more strategic manner: vala.
And no one @ me about being a sapien police, hmph.
it’s just really rude to imply stuff like that on a really hard working person’s open channel for discussion
No passive aggressive comments here are needed, thank you.
PS you can message me in private if you would like and we can problem solve together with what’s going on. I’ll try my best to help. Same goes for anyone else
Sorry, but you are assuming so many things, I don’t doubt Sapien’s work at all else I would not have bought 6 fields only in one month (last Dec) and already bought 2 fields after the year began. I’m cutting down my other expenses to buy more and more fields.
I only said that as a joke because it would be easy (I believe) for Captain to include some additional detail which Achilles gave above to the existing mythic item and give as a bonus for those who didn’t see results considering a kind soul he is! That is the greed.
I will stop cracking jokes, also refrain from writing one liners from today. 
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no!! Omg, I’m so sorry!! I’m the worst, yikes
Epic fail on my end.
Fine maybe I’m not the Sapien police but totally qualified for ‘extra’ police smh
Sorry!
Along time ago back in college and high school, I had my fair share of regular experimenting with class A’s my self. You name it; upper’s, downer’s, screamer’s… laughers. I started my journey off with Marijuana and then LSD became the end of the gateway for me. I eventually packed it all in as I felt I needed to just get grip of myself, find a new direction in life and gets some new friends.
Point I’m making is anyways, I used to be a regular user of amphetamines on the night scene and I think that triggered my anhedonia but it could of also (like you said) damage metabolism too because over the years my body fat percentage has sky rocketed. No amount of dieting helps much for me either.
Also were you naturally a thin person or did you pile on the fat later on in life?
I recently bought this audio and have just been using oxidized fat recently, if I want extreme weight loss what would be a good stack?
Well to be honest, I’m the wrong person to ask. Although you could try this though:
Diabetes Treatment
Gila Monster Venom
The Furnace
Cardarine
If the Furnace is quite strong for you then you can start with The Oven field for a while to see how you get on. Although take it easy with this one too because I once nearly shit my pants with it on the way to the gym lol.
Never tried the Gila Monster Venom field but it says that it will help someone who wants extreme weight loss. My advice is do some more research on the forum abit more for this field before you start spamming the hell out of it.
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