The thing about 'Entities' & Curses

I am not sure this is even fully possible. Your energy (manifestation) goes where your attention goes…

I guess one can try to observe it with as little energy as possible applied to it so that it barely influences what you manifest. Like a detached oberver that is being aware but not reacting to what is observed so that one does not give the negative stuff any further emotional energy.

Have you tried looping “Clear all Negative Energy and Entity Removal” from patreon?

If the negative energy is already there, it must be released or felt and transcended.
If it is surpressed then this will just be pushed into the background and still manifest itself in your reality. So observation alone is useless, the whole issue (often deep trauma) needs to be healed and released.

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That’s what has prevented me from going and dealing with the negative things…
Knowing I manifest through awareness, it seems counterproductive to just simply observe the things within you, but then how do you shift your perception without suppressing the energies; your shadows, fears, doubts.

How do you transcend?

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If the negative energy is already there it is already manifesting itself through your subconscious mind.

If you do not know the origin of the negative energy, and with origin I mean the particular trauma or core belief that is causing it, then you can on a journey of self-discovery or use JAAJ’s Self Love Stack for general deep self-healing or also techniques like BSFF where the subconscious mind tries to resolve the issue by itself.

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@Acorn

So, you ask yourself these questions because not to, would be aloof ?

That’s the answer you want to go with ? :joy:

To each his own I guess

if you have no need to know then there is no motive to do it. Why would one have a motive to think that also, play with the powers of the mind and the perception of course but you haven’t even presented a reason to do so. I think many people don’t work on themselfs because they never had the motive to do so and so they don’t think about those things, me myself think about that sometime but have I done anything practical or thought any practical way to know the reality? no! so my thoughts are out of my mind and will not explore things like that. If anyone knows how to do that instead of reading a whole thread that comes down to the fact that you have a choice which is really logical and practical truth I want to hear it too.

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You transmute / divert, shift that energy (or ‘painbody’ - playlist) to a constructive direction / release through other means (such as exercise with mindfulness or the SEE System) / journaling / explode “expand” / breath deeply (breathwork) for heart coherance / Cry, yell, scream in a secluded safe place / meditate / grounding earthing (very important) to neutralize and balance and reconnect with the ‘lessons’ / consciousnesss of the world of nature (many things you can do)

Like how the video above shows: you go from the implosion (self sabotage / degradation / neglect / apathy / self centeredness / fear / heart-armor / denial / gaslighting ) to explosion / transformation / release of any blockages or limiting beliefs of yourself and in turn others / transmutation

You learn / experience the art of letting go through your consciousness / awareness of transforming that pain into your ‘willpower’ - or however else you want to manifest that which doesn’t go into a downward spiral of self destruction - through self love / self reflection / epiphanies / realizations to see ‘through’ the ‘madness’ (Interconnections of everything + Remove Unconscious Clutter + Subconscious Limits Removal) for what it truly is and accepting it as it is (without pointing, blaming, labeling, identifying yourself with the experience / memories (like how a tree goes through life) facing and accepting and releasing (ie. SEE System and/or cord removal) your fears / negative thought patterns with an open mind and with subtle detachment (ego dissolution) (ie. see in 3rd person as a certain role: what would i do as a parent?) to make the conscious changes through your choices / thoughts / feelings / focus on the aspects of love, forgiveness, appreciation (ho’oponopono) with / through / as your ‘higher self’ (true self, essence, aspects of who you truly are) with trust / faith: oxytocin.

You allow yourself to process the feelings / thoughts as an act of self love and mindfulness instead of neglecting yourself by ignoring what your soul (heart, body, mind, etc) is telling you and then you let it all go and in turn you choose how you want to handle it

The stuck energy you experience tells you / shows you the story(s) / clue(s) / landmark(s) ie.

Sorry this seems to have gotten off-topic. We’ll need to move elsewhere on this side of things. Use the search box

Update: fixed link

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What are you meaning when you say “dealing with”? For me, when I talk about “dealing with” negative things (I don’t label things as “positive” or “negative;” those are unhelpful labels for me), I’m meaning shift your relationship with that thing so that it’s less “negative.” That process of shifting leads to the “accepting” you were talking about a few posts up.

I’m going to quibble with your premise that you “manifest through awareness.” That’s not been my experience. If we did “manifest through awareness,” we wouldn’t have a whole slew of manifestors worrying about and trying to clean up their subconscious (AKA unaware) limiting beliefs and whatnot.

I believe that we “manifest through active vibration,” of which we may or mayn’t be aware. Frankly, I’m not a big fan of that phrase. It’s a little too airy-fairy for me, but it’s the best phrase I’ve come upon so far which captures the dynamics I see at work.

A person might go through life with an active vibration (a story, a belief, a decision about who they are or how people treat them, etc) and react to life through the lens of that vibration, manifesting (in both real and “spiritual” senses) more that matches and fulfills that active vibration.

You’re wise to ask this because, as you can see by your question, “suppressing” doesn’t allow for any shifting. It’s almost the opposite of the conditions conducive to the shift and integration that was being recommended. Suppressing IS counterproductive, not the other way around.

I know it seems counterproductive to you. I’m willing to bet that the reason it seems counterproductive to you hinges on the difference between what you’re meaning when you say “observe” and what those who are recommending that observation are meaning. When you truly “just simply observe” in the recommended sense, you’re no longer labeling that event or energy as “negative.” It simply is. That event or energy becomes something that you once experienced, with about as much charge as a unwanted fashion choice you used to make when you were 5 years old or your old habit of biting your nails. Just “something that you once did” or “something that once happened to you.” IOW, through that practice (so that you are truly able to “just simply observe”) you’re shifting your perspective–from “this thing is negative and must be suppressed or otherwise banished” to integration, wholeness, and oneness. That’s how you transcend.

Most people don’t “just simply observe,” not at first. Instead, they usually replay their recordings that they have in their head, which are as edited and skewed as reality TV. (And those recordings once served a useful purpose.) It takes some practice to truly “just simply observe” in the way that idea is usually taught.

And that’s not the only way of releasing, integrating or transcending something negative. As you will recall, I described to you a method that was more active and participatory than “just simply observing.” And there are tons more methods. All the effective methods that I know are based on the opposite of “suppressing” and require varying degrees of “awareness.”

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Even if were not important, Shouldnt we adopt the mindset we are important because it helps us go through life?

More like consider our selfs important and not the am important to the world.

But that too :joy:

if not why love our selfs? If were not important.

This whole comment may seem like am trying to justice somthing or find meaning throught your comment on my life view.

When am just curious. lol

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Thats youtr choice really.

I be myself, and thats fine with me, I am comfortable being myself.
and i do not wish to be self important.
Thats my personal choice,

I dont judge your decision.
You be you.

(I should delete that post right?)

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I love the heck out that post,

But at the end of the day its your post.

I feel like you got the idea am attacking you or somthing when am genuinely curious. We are on a fourm were theirs ideas can be strange to people, So i feel like this information is smthing that we can look at and have our opinion on, whether we our right or wrong.

Their is more i want to say but find it hard to say. But If your asking should you delete it because am “taking offence” (which am not) then no dont delete it.

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It may be too late (I’m being lazy here :rofl: ) but please don’t¹, because people will (further?) misconstrue what was actually being discussed.

¹Of course, you’re the Cap’n around here. So, you’ll steer this ship as best as you see fit, regardless of how I vote, which is fine by me, too. :laughing:

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Not at all.
I deleted it because it is not pleasantly or kindly worded
a rant really,

Not the right section even lol.
If we spill something, I think its good to try to clean it up,
The longer it is left there, the more the problem can fester.

I dont want to invite attacks from parasitic people as well.

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Okay thank you, I was scared people might think i was too blame or somthing :man_shrugging:

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Because you are addressing several different layers but smushing it into one cake (i think lol)

We- as in humans- are not as grandeur like imagined
It is a subtle truth but a truth that hurts the Ego (ego as in the annon reading this; the mind, the “I”) considerably at first.
But like how we accept how we must breathe in oxygen in order to sustain life, similarly thats the same thing; it just is. If the only truth is Source, but Source is not this annon (as in the mind, the intellect) how can these high/self relevance notions hold true-
Now however man , at the same time, holds within him Source; therefore, we are also source.

So thats confusing isnt it you might say
On one hand they are saying no self importance then on another, are asserting
We are Source
but source has no attachments you see
Self importance implies “i” the ego
The source is devoid of any such things.

It is hard to conceptualize at first for the lay man because this beauty thats held within him is veiled in a a heavy mist; like clouds- but thats where the game for life comes in; its removing those clouds- when you do- i think what we are trying to explain would make more sense

So then by default you inevitably love yourself; because Source is nothing but an endless waterfall of love; so you practice love because that - its very essence is love - so then you too, and naturally resonate and remain at such a level. humble another very important trait too. Humble is when a human understand it is important to lower is self-importance, his “ego” but that is not to say that is equivalent to the notion that they feel or are unworthy; because they are worthy, of course they are, they have a sanctuary held within them!
But that sanctuary’s blessings have allowed them to understand all “this”.
Theres a saying medicine served bitter is medicine served best; because it forces you to confront the parts to yourself that need not just healing; but transforming.
And when we transform, meaning rise higher in vibration and with understanding these “conceptual realization”
whats being said on this thread sounds much less cryptic than some may at first percieve
:)
You have to be of this world as much as you are not of this world

But again not trying to impose this upon anyone; please forgive me if it appears that I am :)

Or maybe ive read this entire convo wrong idk
If so nvm me :no_good_woman:t3:

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the way you put that is very beautiful

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I’ll share my take on it.

I love myself because I am myself. I don’t need a reason to love me. Love feels awesome and leads to more positive experiences. So why not love myself?

Finding myself important tends to be a way for my ego to put me above others. I don’t believe I’m above anyone. I try my best to see everyone as equal (not perfect at this).

And no I’m not 100% selfless, I certainly do things for myself and I live for myself so of course I consider myself first. But I’ve become selfless enough to put others before me if need be. To be selfless is to be believe we’re all one so why classify some people as more important than others?

That’s just me though. Of course, my logical brain will tell me that beyonce is more important than the average woman because she influences millions of women at a time. But my right brain tells me beyonce is all those women and all those women are beyonce too. They’re both the same water that flows through everything.

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Thank you for the input

:slightly_smiling_face:

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Exactly. We automatically label phenomena as negative or positive without even noticing. Negative can be so subjective… just the fact some people find pleasure in pain goes to show that.

But regardless of that, the whole point is to not even classify negative as positive either. The point is to not react and be able to choose how you feel about something. We don’t notice it but we rarely ever get to choose how we feel about something. Our mind already has everything labeled negative and positive, to the point that we are always automatically triggered by the world and our thoughts.

And the reason why focusing on your negative thoughts is important is because you are rejecting energy that is a part of you. Rememebr, energy cannot be created or destroyed… only transmuted. When you try to push it away with positivity or clear it off, the root cause of the energy if it hasn’t been dealt with… will return. The energy is a part of you. It’s in your memories. It’s biological at that point.

The whole point as wellbeing said, is to reintegrate that energy back into your flow. It is a blockage within. Like water that turned into rock (due to being repressed and pushed back) and that rock is now blocking the rest of your energy flow in some way. To disintegrate thar rock is to acknowledge it, accept it and reintegrate it through love, embrace, appreciation or simple observarion really. In essence, it all comes down to ‘accepting what you reject.’ That is the basis of it. It sounds complicated but it’s not.

It’s just difficult because our subconscious/ego make it very difficult to accept the things that we already built thought patterns/beliefs of rejection against. We naturly get push back. But acknowledge the pushback.

Acknowledge that it makes you uncomftorable. Acknowledge your fear. Don’t fight ans say it’s your ego making you fearful or your subconscious. Doing this continues to feed the separation between you and all the energy within. Be accountable for your energy and your feelings and slowly you may regain control over them.

Now of course, that doesn’t mean the pain is good for you. Negative can be classified as anything destructive. If something feels destructive

It is probably not best to classify a home invader neutrally. But

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Do you think you could give an example of how this can be done, in our daily lives?

Let’s say we have a negative thought that we don’t like, we don’t want to focus on it because we don’t want to experience/manifest it but we don’t want to push it away either-

What does accepting it look like in practice

What do you say to yourself?

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