Trust Levels for Traders

My reasoning for this was like this:

  • A trade was either professionally executed and successful or it wasn’t.
  • What is a semi-trusted trader? I either trust someone as a trade partner or I don’t.
  • Scammers and suspicious folks will be reported to admins and exposed on the scammer thread.
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Well, some people will send you the nft/money, just will lie to you maybe about some extravagant results, or maybe they won’t like some trade offer anymore, so they will disappear and ignore you, or will not provide you the description despite prior promises, or will just somewhere behave irresponsibly. So this might be a grey area needing its own recognition. And also, this one would have to send their stuff first in member to member trade and others will no longer rely on them for description, or anything other than trade itself, as this time, they will be warned, instead of just seeing maybe less ‘trusted trader’ votes.

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On the other hand, having a negative voting option invites potential for abuse too.
Vile people can create new accounts and then simply vote on “Suspicious” and by this distort other’s overall perception of a trader.
Of course those votes generated by new and unknown accounts will not have much subjective weight to the eyes of experienced forum users.

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Here, we can limit it to only members and regulars.

Or at worst, to only regulars.

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This one seems like a balanced solution.

Right now there are 3102 forum user with at least “basic” status and 1157 forum users with “member” status. So every third account will be able to vote.

(only 121 forum users have “regular” status)

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Reminder reference

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My only caveat with this is that many of the member/regulars here have their private group of friends (from the forum) in discord servers or with private communications. They can easily just have their friends rate them 5 stars.

Not implying people will but I always look at potential tricks people can pull off. So while I agree that members/regulars should be the ones that can rate, there should be some confirmation that they purchased/traded an nft successfully with someone. Ya follow? or is that too much?

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Hi Sammy,

I think the main idea is not the amount of votes that someone has received, but WHO has voted for whom as a safe trader.

It is about known trustworthy forum members, vouching for others as safe trade partners.

Who is a “known trustworthy forum member” will be for everyone to decide by themselves.

So the responsibility with whom they trade will still be one everyone’s personal shoulders.

People can also check this way whether two forum users have voted for each other as safe trade partners. And if they have, then this implies that their trades went sucessful.

The advantage with the voting system is further that user can always edit their votes (i.e. unvote someone again).

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Idea: we can also somehow publicly @mention users we’ve done transactions with as we set up the poll so they can give votes

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How about if

Members should post under the offers or what they are looking for a mini poll about “yes for trusted member if done transactions” and “no” for didnt go well on the buy and sell thread.

And its a must like nobody can post without that mini poll 🤷

Whether is if the person is looking to buy/trade/sell

And public votes.

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Downside to this:

The posts in the buy/trade/sell thread are being deleted and repostet by users all the time. With that much fluctuation it will be hard for people to preserve their votes.

Upside to this:

However, this would actually encourage the opposite as it would encourage the users to never delete their trading post and only edit it for updates!
I actually like this.
Because the buying/selling thread, despite the 4 days rule, gets flooded with new posts every single day. People should just update their existing post and that’it.
If the voting collection is tied to the post, then users will keep to their posts as long as possible before they delete it and make a new one.

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There is only certain amount of times one can edit a post.

But we can regain fast the votes i mean its always almost the same members trading/selling and we check that post almost daily, and the ones that havent done any or much well… thats exactly what we want to see, who doesnt have votes

How often can someone edit a post?

Losing the collected trust votes would be really bad.
The voting should be in a thread that users better not need to delete.
So maybe better make it separate then.
No one should be forced to lose the collected trust votes just because the system does not allow any more update edits to their trading post.

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Maybe there is a way to leave that post without restrictions in numbers of edits?

I think @SammyG would know

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Not specific posts unfortunately. Me raising the limits of edited posts makes it possible for all posts to be edited that many times. But editing posts is fine since we can see the history anyways. So the limit can be raised in general.

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Ahh bummer.

Thank you! But then we can proceed with that idea and all be focused on that thread not looking else where in a different thread if someone is trusted or not i think.

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Currently giving the format a test with a few useful addons. Will post here the final draft for everyone to give feedback then wecll put the system to use

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Here’s the rough draft

Members post their own poll here.
Only give votes if you have experience doing transactions with them. (:question: Agreed or no?)

Focus more on who voted; not the number of people. You can see more details by clicking on the avatar pictures in the polls.

New members will need to give their own NFT / funds first to trusted members to build trust and make their own poll here.

Rules

(Exceptions may apply)
Requirements. The post will be deleted if it is not done in this way:

  1. Only 1 poll (or 2 ?) configured like this:
  • Title: YourNameHere Trader Rating
  • Options:
    • Trusted
  • Limit user voting to only these groups:
    • Level 1 (Regular)
    • Level 2 (Member)
Extras

( :information_source: optional? Would some of these be a better idea to be mandatory?)

  • scam wallets to help watch out for and avoid counterfeit copies. Possibly in hopes of returning the NFTs
  • Contact location - Discord, Reddit, E-mail, etc
  • Payment options - Paypal, money order, stripe, cashapp, etc
  • @Mentions of all the most recent, active existing users who have done a transaction on you
  • Other vote choices BUT they must be in a separate poll bc results are automatically sorted :
    • Timely / Punctual
    • Communicative / Reponsive
    • Fair Pricing
    • Secure
    • Professional / Good Attitude
How

I’ll post a picture step by step here later
Show who voted: Reply > Gear icon > Build Poll > Gear icon, bottom left > scroll all the way down > check :ballot_box_with_check: “Show who voted”
Limit to member trust level: Set trust level 2 for members, level 1 for regulars.

Guidelines to know if a user is trustworthy

(:question: Feel free to suggest what else)**

  1. They have been contributing or participating in the community forum
  2. Been a member at least 1 year / 8 months? (Guestimating)
  3. The more votes they have from more trusted members the more credibility they may have
  4. The more involved abd supportive the member has been, the more trust they have.

:heavy_heart_exclamation: Poll Format Post Proposal

Here is what the post may look like
Error “You cannot change poll after the 1st 5 mins”
This turns up if i try to edit the poll again. it seems it still shows that error even after 5 minutes so a bug. Turns out it seems we all have to do the poll thing perfectly once to keep from having that issue

Poll 1 - Part 1 of 2

  • Trusted

0 voters

Poll 1 - Part 2 of 2 ( :question: Would this be necessary?)

  • Punctual
  • Responsive
  • Fair Price
  • Secure

0 voters

Payment type:

Paypal F&F, Venmo, Cashapp, Money Order

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Mentioning users as an invitation for feedback

@JAAJ @Lunamoon22 @SammyG @Powren @Alex @anon3411921 @Nice2knowU @Maoshan_Wanderer @Zen @Psimindset @Dr_Manhattan and anyone else that would like their input since i don’t know everyone who may want to share

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This is a tricky bit to nail down. I appreciate your diligence in this. :slight_smile:
I can delete this in a bit so it doesn’t mess up your thread.

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