I feel like VoC is more aggressive in terms of clearing clutter. It’s like the tough dad. While VoDL is the loving mother. VoDL made me feel overwhelmed only in the heart when I first started.
VoC on the other hand just makes me want to stay in bed. Literally as I’m typing this, my left side again getting so numb. Even my face left side. It’s just funny to me. What was so bad about my left side of the body energetically? 
Well then…I had a dream that I was stuck in prison with a bunch of other guys in one room. They were all big time criminals and super loud. I felt like I was suffocating in that dream and about to burst and die. Wasn’t a fun experience.
I wonder what negative energies I released from my body?
You guys might think I’m crazy but I recalled a part of one of my past lives. A little over 2 years ago I went to India. 3 cities I was in, New Delhi, Ajmer, and Agra. When I went to a certain part of Ajmer, there is a place called Lake Anasagar. I felt such a strong connection to that place.
But as time went on with me using this field for a little less than a month, all of a sudden I started getting memories of Lake Anasagar. I got my answer…in one of my past lives I was a resident of Ajmer Rajasthan India. When I told my mom this, even she was telling me she was feeling this same way for herself to.
I have never felt this way in New York, Maryland, New Delhi, or anywhere else I have been to. Like if you look at the consciousness chart of Hawkins, my vibration would be at peace. That’s literally how I felt over in that very location you see in the picture below.
That’s beautiful fam!
Can anyone else confirm this? When one uses this audio once while sleeping and then listen to subliminal about a certain topic, you dream about that topic?
I notice that when I started listening to win the lottery subliminals again, I’ve been getting dreams about winning or seeing numbers in certain games to play in order to win. I started listening to the lottery subliminal maybe 5 days ago, and in those 5 days, I got those dreams 2 or 3 days.
I’m curious, what will another’s confirmation of an experience you know that you’re having do for you? I’m truly interested.
I think the issue is that for many of us we are taught to not trust ourselves. This can have a lasting impact.
Op it’s not listed as a benefit and I haven’t heard others report this, but you had the experience right? Perhaps it was the subliminal? Perhaps it was a co creation?
I first tried this filed few months ago when I was going through a difficult depressed state and someone on the forum suggested that it helped them with depression. When I listened then I felt like nothing makes me happy and didn’t make me feel any better so I decided to come back to this field when I’ve gone through proper healing. So I’ve been listening to mental health stack and other fields and started to feel amazing and motivated.
About 9 days ago I thought I’ll give VoC another go since I’m happy and motivated. After I started listening again I’ve been feeling Sooo tired ! I could sleep all day. I have very vivid and rich dreams but when I wake up I just want to lay in my bed all day 
Nothing that I think of will make me more energised or happy:thinking: I’ve seen other members saying that this field makes them tired but I wonder if I should carry on listenin and just go through it and it will get better or should I just drop listening to this field. Other people say that it makes them happier and bring easier manifestations and its just not the case for me 
Could you please advise me if I should carry on or just drop it cause it might be too strong for me 
I have VoC issues too when I loop it all night.
Just play it less. It doesn’t have to play for the entire duration.
Also use VoDL. Like, put it in a playlist on shuffle with 1 VoC and 3 VoDL… and maybe some other stuff.
Don’t drop the audio. Listen less. This audio too strong for me as well. In fact even I’m thinking of using this maybe twice a week. That’s how intense it is for me. I keep waking up with very tired eyes. Vodl on the other hand is much softer and gives very pleasant dreams.
Two years later Rose drops in to say - oh yeah, Pleiadian Healer - I remember that one. I was on xtrememind in 2004 but don’t ask me anything as I don’t remember lol. Back to VoC, sorry. I was reading way up the thread in July of 2020. apologies . . .
I haven’t got the VoDL yet but I might get it sometime in the future. I don’t play it during the night but I did listen maybe 4,5 times at some point. I think I’ll just do 1 before bed in meditative state. I do have vivid dreams though and I love it ! It’s just fascinating how differently it works for people. I hope it’ll declutter my energy and I will get similar benefits to other people 
Thanks for the advice guys 
This comment should be framed … with energies available so much and so easily we tend to overdo … I have been saying this and still I did it to myself … realised later after messing it up
Sometimes we have to pass through suffering to experience an insight… usually multiple times 
You can skip a lot of suffering by getting the Conceptual Realizations field.
I still don’t get it why so few people have gotten this field.
Makes me wonder, whether people actually secretly like to suffer? 
If that works for you by any means do it 
BTW Suffering is the result of ignorance, not of liking to suffer
And I was pointing out (I guess it happened to you too because you seem annoyed by my words) that its not as simple as saying to someone “why you do this? do that so you dont suffer”, majority of people will keep do what they were doing (due to ignorance).
I’ve used the word “need” (that person need suffering to then have an insight and move out of ignorance), but of corse it was not literal… reality is fluid.
Finally feeling an emotion unconditionally is the way to release it, of course if you have insight or realization into something causing ignorance (to be an illusion for example), this process is much smoother or even unnoticed.
The possible trap of trying to “skip” things is actually repressing them, and this leads to delusion and more suffering later.
I’ll speak for myself. This isn’t about wanting to suffer or liking it. It’s about not understanding that field.
I thought I’d share a dream with you guys that was definitely from this field.
Out of nowhere last night I had a dream that a black woman in her 40s was asking me “you’re a chosen one aren’t you?”
In the dream I was like “I don’t know?? Am i??”
I have been listening to only this and a few audios just recently as recommended by jaaj and have stopped all others Nfts and other fields.
this makes me more sad. Am more miserable it hard to explain I got new perspectives a while ago and it’s not helping me.
Should I stop listening to the audio as I am not ready for it.
This is one of those audios that puts some people through hell before they break through. Emotional release for however long you need it and crucible 3x after VOC sessions helps. Also I recommend you not to loop this, I only use it once at the max.
