What Is The Subconscious And The Ego [Advanced Explanation In Conjunction With Fields]

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This thread is re-posted with the permission of the moderator.

Hi guys! I am the creator of www.aetherfrequencies.com and in this post, I want to share my experience and my understanding about what the subconscious and the ego really are, why were they created and how do they work in conjunction with energy fields of sapiens or other creators.

So far, I haven’t seen any good explanation about the ego and the subconscious and you cannot Truly and Permanently change something without deeply understanding it (its root cause).

What is the subconscious and the ego and how were they created?

When you were a little baby, you had (and you still have) natural needs like: the need to be physically touched, the need for emotional love, need for food, the need to play, need to express your emotions and have them heard by your parents, need for personal identity, space and boundaries (when you started growing and defining yourself), etc.

When you expressed those needs and you required your parents to fulfil them (and they should fulfil them because you were just a little baby), your parents refused to meet those needs and they used different “techniques” to by-pass your needs, to suppress them and to force you to stop having those needs (which is impossible).

At that moment, you were a little baby and you were completely powerless and 100% dependant on your parents to survive. You had to do something to survive and be accepted by your parents.

So, what did you do in this impossible situation?

You split your consciousness and you became multiple personalities. You chose only one or two personalities that are accepted and liked by your parents and you suppressed the other personalities. That’s how those personalities became “subconscious” (under your conscious awareness).

The subconscious is not subconscious by default, from nature, you made it subconscious, you pushed it deep down so you never hear about it ever again (which is impossible). But you had to make this automatic decision when you were a little baby because you had to survive with your bad parents that didn’t actually want to take care of you.

So, now you chose to express and be conscious of only those 1-2 personalities that your parents liked and allowed (those are fake personalities, THIS IS THE EGO). That’s why they say that “the ego doesn’t want to let do, it wants to keep the control”, because these fake personalities are afraid to also leave space for the other aspects of you to be expressed (because that got you in big trouble when you were a little baby with your parents).

Now, as you can see, THE EGO is not a demon, it’s not a dark entity, it’s not an error, it’s not something that you can get rid of and it is 100% part of your consciousness (and you cannot “delete” parts of your consciousness).

The EGO is comprised of a few fake personalities that you had to create in yourself when you were little in order to survive in the same house with your bad parents which didn’t want and respect the real you and they forced you to suppress the real you (the real human you).

So you really had no choice, you had to create an EGO that is comfortable to your parents and it doesn’t get you in trouble with them.

Now, you slowly grow up and you become an adult. Even after you left your parents house and you’re not dependant on them for your survival anymore, you lived into those fake personalities (the ego) for so many years, that you forgot they are fake and that you created them in order to survive with your parents when you were a little baby.

And because you forgot, your subconscious-suppressed personalities are working completely under your awareness and they still live as little babies in your parents’ house. But you don’t know this, you forgot, you got so accustomed to living within your fake personalities and you didn’t take the time to UPDATE your suppressed-subconscious parts to the reality of being an adult.

It’s exactly like having many different persons in you. Those aspects of your consciousness that you suppressed (because of your parents) are YOU and they now live under your awareness and it is impossible to actually get rid of them.

So, because you disown, abandon and suppress those parts of you, they start controlling you to get their needs met (the needs that your parents didn’t want to fulfil) through tricks and manipulations on your conscious fake personalities.

Over time, if you still don’t want to talk to those subconscious parts, empathize with them and meet their needs, your “EGO” will become monstruous.

So the EGO construct is basically a dissonance between your conscious personalities and your subconscious personalities (the suppressed ones). It’s a war between them. It’s like many persons who don’t want to listen to each other and don’t want to care for each other and they are very hurt.

So, this is the short story of why do you now have a subconscious/an ego.
Now, let’s connect this knowledge with using the energetic fields (sapien’s and other fields).

How do fields work in conjunction with your subconscious mind?

Ok. Let’s say for example that you are consciously using a field that has the energy of personal confidence.

How will your subconscious mind respond to that?

Well, after a while of using the energy field of confidence, your subconscious will get emotionally triggered into the childhood wounds/trauma around confidence and personal power. Most of the people won’t even notice that they triggered something in themselves, they will automatically suppress anything that appears in themselves and is no according to their ego standards (if the ego says that you should only feel peace because your parents liked you to be silent, you will reject everything other than peace, for e.g.).

So, even though you’re using a field for confidence (and at the start, you might feel confidence), the subconscious-suppressed aspects of you will reject the confidence energy because when you were little and you tried to have your own identity, power and confidence, your parents threatened you in different ways (many times in subtle manners that you don’t recognize as abuse when you are a child, nor when you are an adult).

So the field of confidence will actually trigger you into healing your subconscious wounds and integrating those suppressed personalities (that weren’t allowed by your parents to be confident) of you into your present. And it’s a very good thing.

You actually have to connect to those subconscious-suppressed parts of you, listen to their pain, tell the truth (the fact that your parents abused you) and let them know that they now live in an environment where it’s safe to be confident and to own your power.

Trying to “program” your subconscious through repetition or different techniques to do what you want (what your fake personality/ego wants) is like trying to program a person that feels rejected and not-understood by you to do what you want. It won’t happen.

So, in order to get permanent results by using an energy field, you will actually have to do a lot of additional work of healing, empathy, discovery, talking, listening, connecting towards your subconscious-suppressed parts. You can’t just throw in an energy field and force them to comply, it will never happen because they are persons, they’re not like a laptop USB port that you just have to plug something into it and it will automatically do what you want. No.

Your subconscious is alive, it’s conscious, it has free will, it is YOU, a huge part of you that you disowned a long time ago. It is not a software or computer that you can program by throwing some programming techniques in.

Conclusion

In a very short conclusion: the ego is a very scared child/part of your consciousness that is trying to be likeable and accepted by your bad parents, even when you are an adult (even though you’re thinking you’re just trying to have a successful life as an adult). It has valid reasons and it is not to be bashed or blamed, it is to be understood, healed and integrated. The subconscious is comprised of aspects of you that you were forced to suppress in order to be liked and accepted by your parents and in order to survive with them.

That’s it. I tried to keep it short (but even the short story is very long). I hope I wasn’t confusing in some moments.

Everything I wrote here is not a theory that I read in books, it comes straight from the experience of healing some of my childhood wounds and from my deep understanding and observation of it.

I hope this helps.

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Honestly this seems an excessive generalization, or that you dont know much of authentic spiritual traditions.

Or maybe I’ve always been so lucky in my life to always find the other 1% lol

The rest of the post is well written IMHO

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@akkar Tell me one spiritual master that you think has an integrative aproach to spiritual evolution. I will search it on google or youtube and I will tell you if I generalized too much. I only know one spiritual master that nails this stuff that I wrote in this topic.

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I’m refferring to the Ego is a Demon, escape from this world thing…

Adyashanti is one for example
Rupert Spira comes to mind too

But honestly doesn’t suffice a search on google to understand a tradition or spiritual teachings

Not a “spiritual teacher” but Connirae Andreas has done a good work in that regard too (Coming to Wholeness process)

Maybe Ken Wilber?

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@akkar Yeah, I looked on youtube for all of them. They’re still in the old paradigm. And the way the first two of them sit in the chair with that peaceful saint attitude, oh, I can’t stand it, it’s so fake and old.

Connirae Andreas said the ego is “the I”. Same old paradigm energy…Nobody actually tells you how the ego is formed, step-by-step in your human experience, starting from the beginning. They just talk abstract spiritual stuff that make you feel like you’re listening to some advanced alien spiritual speech that you’re just not getting it.

Ken Wilber has nothing to do with it. I can easily see that in his energy. Nobody actually revolutionizes this field. Everybody either just speaks the old spiritual paradigm or some of them just deviate a bit from it.

But anyway, there might be some spiritual teacher that will tell you that the ego isn’t a problem or something like that.

It is a small step forward, but I’m talking about the whole information and the integrative approach that I wrote above. Integrating spirituality with emotions and the human experience as a child in your family.

Nobody is down to earth with it.

But anyway, we’re not here to discuss spiritual masters. I don’t advise anybody to follow any spiritual master. Come up with your own experience and observations. Be a “scientist” in your life. Live life like you’re the first human ever on planet earth. Set the tone for something completely new and better. That’s uniqueness.

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That’s what I do…
But going around saying 99% of people in this field from present and past are wrong, I’m right, doesnt seem maturity to me.

But of course I’m not here to enter a debate, I was just commenting on your post that as I said seems well written to me

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@akkar I know exactly why I say 99% of them are incomplete and old in their teachings. I don’t just throw numbers. There is only 1% that have an integrated aproach. 1% that integrate emotions and the vulnerable human experience with advanced spirituality. 1% that don’t gaslight (cover the reality) you about the fact that you are in massive pain and you have 100% valid reasons for that (and that the root cause is in your childhood with your parents, not in your mindset, not in your “inability to be present in the now”, those are just effects of a deeper cause). And everybody on earth is in pain, including the spiritual teachers that disown that pain.

Every problem inside you can be traced to how your parents treated you and how they were in the relationship with you.

And that the way is not through spiritual escapism, denying your emotions and your inner child, positive thinking, breatharianism, put as much light in you as possible and you will enlighten, be present in the now and that’s all you have to do, be aware of the awareness and other stuff like that.

I’m not saying that being present in the now or flooding your body with light is bad. I’m saying that those teachings are incomplete. And many times, a half-truth that is presented as the full truth is more dangerous than a complete lie.

And I’m not talking about enlightenment. I hate this concept and people who try to get spiritually enlightened they do it because they want to feel worthy and accepted by their parents (and their parents told them that they don’t love them because they are not worthy or achieved enough. that’s so stupid).

Nobody on earth has ever been fully enlightened. Yes, there were people who achieved high states of mind, dissolution, peace and a sense of unity or stuff like that. But that doesn’t mean englightenment.

You cannot be enlightened unless everybody else on earth is enlightened. Because “we are all one” and everybody else is a part of you.

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Lets close it here than :+1:

By the way enlightment is not about becoming somehimg else you arent already… all of my examples above say this not you have to escape, ego is a demon that you have to kill it or anything like that

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@akkar We’re cool. We deviated from the main thing that I wrote anyway. I deleted that part with the 99% spiritual masters, it was not necessary.

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@anon44251429 it’s offtopic now. I deleted that part with the spiritual masters. It’s not the main subject of the topic which is about the what is the subconscious, what is the ego, how were they created and why, and how do they work in conjunction with fields/frequencies.

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@anon44251429 But you don’t have to ask me, anyway. Check for yourself what spiritual master says the things that I wrote in this post about the ego and the subconscious :slight_smile:

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Jeru Kabbal was another that comes to mind

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@FROMNOW Long story short, I quit all my friends in Romania, because everybody was so emotionally disconnected and far away when we were talking (people weren’t bonding at all). I was alone. My life was becoming more and more shrank regarding going out with friends and having relationships to the point were I was going out of my rent only to the supermarket and for alone walks in the park.

I wrote down on a paper my goal to find a woman with specific characteristics. After I wrote it down I started paying attention to what I was receiving on the internet. I found the woman in 1 hour (this is another story). I immediately wrote to her on chat, started to have video calls and after 1-2 months I moved to Greece with her.

Then I also removed all my fb friends (2.000 friends).

When I met her, I only knew how to just be present with my emotions and let them go, let them dissolve (if you stay purely present and feel your emotions, they dissolve).

But she helped me open up to a new and deeper dimension about myself. She made me aware of the fact that emotions have big communications behind them and that those communications come from my subconscious suppressed aspects/personalities of myself. So it’s not enough to just be present with the emotions and let them dissolve. You actually have to be with them and understand what they’re communicating to you from your subconscious and about what’s wrong in your current reality. If you don’t pay attention to your emotions, you have no way of knowing if something is wrong in your life. You’re lost, you have no compass because that’s your soul communicating to you through your emotional body.

And she also made me aware of so many very-subtle abuses that I received from my parents. I never had the means to actually pin-point all emotional, mental and energetic abuses that I received from my parents until then. I thought that my parents were “OK”.

Nobody thinks to start playing the detective about what their parents actually did to them (not even verbally, those are very invisible and hard-to-detect abuses, but they are the worst because it’s so hard to discover them and they dwell in your subconscious controlling your life). And it’s the most painful thing in the world to start finding out that you received so many abuses and so much negligence from your only parents, the only 2 people who were like your Gods when you were little, to whom you gave all your trust and they gave birth to you… That’s why people don’t actually awaken, because it’s so painful and horrifying, it’s like dying. That’s why most of the people only do mental and spiritual surface-superficial stuff.

And because I never in my life stopped at an incomplete truth, I always wanted more and more truth even though it fking hurt. The reality is horrible and most of the people will never want to face the reality of their parents and their childhood and the reality of humanity in general.

So, with my girlfriend, almost every day, we talked and talked and discovered and unveiled myths, bad programs and wounds from my subconscious and from her’s (she was working on this since before she met me, she’s very serious and dedicated about resolving and integrating her subconscious disowned parts).

Basically we channel subconscious parts for each other. We are both channelers (we can channel angels, spirits, higher self, etc. including suppressed subconscious parts of each other). But she is a more experienced channeler and she helps me more with my subconscious parts than I help her.

So, for example, she is channelling the part of me that is afraid of money, for example. And she starts being that suppressed part of me and now I get the chance to talk with that part of me, ask it questions and dig deeper.

And I always end up discovering some abuse that I got from my parents. And there are so many. We humans are so not-aware of so many subtle and not-so-subtle things that I cannot even begin to tell (the more I discover things of which I am unaware, to more I feel like I’m not aware of so many other stuff).

And then I try to reconcile that subconscious part of me, own it back, empathize with it, find a solution to meet its needs, update it to the reality where I live now (because the subconscious parts don’t live with you in the present, their environment is still somewhere in the childhood).

It’s exactly like taking real care of a very hurt and abandoned child. It’s very hard, and many times I don’t have the compassion and the space to deal with my parts. I just want to get over with it, but it doesn’t work like that.

Anyway, after I finish talking and reconciliating with that part of me, usually I feel much better and I get new and better results in my current reality. My subconscious changes, my subconscious becomes more and more CONSCIOUS and integrated into my current reality/life. But, of course, I am far from over. This is a life-long healing journey.

That’s it for short.

PS. In this period of healing with my girlfriend, I also came up with the idea to create those frequencies from www.aetherfrequencies.com (and it helps me earn a nice passive income while I help people immensely with these frequencies, so I have 100% free time to work on my own healing which is the hardest and many times I don’t feel like doing it).

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@FROMNOW Cool, man. Thanks for sharing :slight_smile:

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Take a look at Core Transformation book if you like, it’s exactly what she talks about

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009I6ZJ08/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdb_t1_.iziFb8M9H852

And this one too

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@akkar Nice! Check out what I found in the “Core Transformation” book that you linked only by reading 5 minutes in it:

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It’s almost exactly what I wrote in my initial post about the parts that we decide to shut down and suppress in order to survive with our bad parents.

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Yes this is why I shared it… it was a suggestion not only to you, to anyone interested in what you are suggesting

Also often they werent bad parents on purpose

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Then she uses her process, very well done in my opinion…
But everyone can use any process feel comfortable with

The basic concepts are all there anyway, nice book

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@akkar I agree that most of the bad stuff that our parents did to us wasn’t on purpose and it was done in a very unconscious way. In the same time, don’t mistake that understanding with releasing them from the responsibility of having had destroyed your adult life. We have lots of suppressed anger and many other feelings that should be directed towards them, not towards ourselves and not towards our life-partner.

So, yes, while I understand that they were unconscious, the blame is still theirs and the responsibility is still theirs.

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I see it more as a cultural thing… of course they learned from their parents and so on
And from the community society around them