A theology discussion

Which dream audios are biggest cheat codes lol, they are all cheat codes but which ones are overpowered

Honestly, I donā€™t think thereā€™s anything more valuable, especially when youā€™re just starting out, then establishing a strong, clear connection to your higher self. Watch the Dreamseeds video on it, and connect with the part of you that is eternal, that knows all, that understands why you picked to live the life youā€™re living now, and knows what the best path for you is. This is a very wise foundation to build upon when using all of the other energies available.

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I am listening to the higher self audio about 1-2 hours daily atm and it feels good

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Good for you brother. Proud of ya!

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Thank you man

Im open minded, honestly.

I discuss agressively on purpose sometimes to get the other triggered so he/she spills some info, it works great on @_OM , learned alot ;D

But the thing with shows and books etc is that its other peoples experiences.

You may not be aware, but there are actual entities that regulate this shit.

From Ghandi to Dalai Lama to even Yeshua, all were guided with a specific agenda in mind.

Even now, this ā€œyou are creators and we are all oneā€ is yet another agenda thats spreading fast on earth.

So, my point is, we know what were allowed to know.

Its why I question everything.

And trust me that primordial wasnt at the beginning lol, my mentor at that time is pretty powerful in higher realms, and even he got intimidated.

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Iā€™m new to all of this stuff and I just want to know when we die, will we come back to earth ? Or we will we here somewhere else

Yeah, no worries man. I will say that most shows are not worth much for exactly the reasons you gave - people saying what they think is true based on their perspective of their own experiences. I mean, sure thereā€™s some use in that, but you canā€™t get the really good stuff until you rise about the limits of human perspective. What I do like about this show is that the info doesnā€™t come from one guyā€™s thoughts, or his interpretations of the life heā€™s lived. Instead, itā€™s all based on what he has pulled from the Akashic Record.

Now, anyone can claim such, so there still needs to be a verification done by the viewer. You gotta filter out the BS from the priceless gems, and thatā€™s a skill Iā€™ve been working on over the years. For me, everything he says either resonates with other quality info Iā€™ve found elsewhere, explains questions Iā€™ve had for ages but could never answer, or was completely new but not contradictory to other reliable sources.

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Initial questions of the thread:

  1. Samurai may be pissed off and tell me ā€œstop reading those fkin books and go live the experience with the devasā€ (and Iā€™d agree, tbh lol) but one of the answers is also in Freudā€™s Totem and Taboo: itā€™s the father whoā€™s being eaten by the brothersā€¦ who eventually replace him by a ā€œmasculine Godā€. To deal with the guilt etc.

But we know that Freud is among the influential figures who have ā€œservedā€ some of the agendas mentioned in this thread.

And heā€™s more all about the Abrahamic religions, for sure. As for the other religions, thereā€™s a correspondence between Freud and Romain Rolland (French writer). If I remember correctly, this is where Freud expresses his fear of the feminine.

Feminine energy / feminine deities etc. = the big ocean. Feared, because it can ā€œswallowā€.

  1. Much have been said already :tophat:
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More than 1 major world religion teaches that sound(/vibration) came first and then created light. I believe there was some discovery in physics not long ago that agreed with that idea.

Sorry to be kind of vague. Itā€™s been years, but I did hear some good teaching on the above.

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Loll, what thread so I can see?

A lot of great answers in this thread. Iā€™m in agreement with most of it.

The perception of god being male is engrained in the collective consciousnessā€¦(sun god for example as chaos mentioned) and keep in mind, the past 2,000 years, the world has been dominated by the monotheistic religions (islam, christianity) in which god is male. The world has been patriarchal throughout human history in general so thereā€™s that. The perception of god is very much shaped by culture.

Now, in certain sects of Shivaism for example, god is multifaceted. Shiva is the active/masculine part & shakti is the passive/feminine part of it. Shakti is the physical universe, shiva is the mind experiencing/creating it. Both are one. This is the yin and yang.

I guess many people might inately refer to god as male because god is the masculine/active aspect of creation.

I believe god can be intepreted in many different ways. Iā€™ll share my current viewpoint of it.

I believe the universe to be one consciousness. If everything in the universe is conscious, then there are different levels of consciousness that make up the layers of the ā€˜all consciousness.ā€™ For example, all the beings in this planetā€™s consciousness make up the consciousness of the earth. Then you go up to galaxy then solar system, extā€¦ so to this same extent, the entire universe has a consciousness as well. Itā€™s the highest level awareness in the net of cosmic consciousness. That level of awareness, is what I would refer to, as ā€˜godā€™.

The conscious mind of the all. The manifester and the manifested. God is not separate from its creation. It is creation experiencing itself. God experiencing itself.

Although I should say, Iā€™ve come to not like the word god much over the years. ā€˜The tao that can be named is not the tao.ā€™ Once you label it as god, you also label what god is not. If god is everything, then it is beyond duality. It is the void and the manifest at once.

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Seems Iā€™ve been ā€œsummonedā€

Cause they havenā€™t had a direct experience of God and donā€™t know any better or have an agenda.

No Enlightened being I know refers to ā€œGodā€ as a ā€œheā€

Sammy pretty much summed it upā€¦ Well the Tao Te Ching did, but same reliable source either way :wink:

Void = Potentiality for all existence
Manifest = All existence
And Void is NOT nothingness or ā€œno-thingā€-ness.

Concept of ā€œVoidā€ is a huge stumbling block in some ancient teachings that many an Enlightened being had to eventually ā€œtranscendā€ ie. make the duality, non-dual.
(See the problem hereā€¦ ā€œconceptā€ means itā€™s still stuck in the limited dualistic mind)

I gave my recommended reading list already.
I suggest you read those books first if one is serious about ā€œseekingā€ the ā€œtruthā€.
(Letā€™s call them very useful preparation and fertilizer for a direct experience)

What I havenā€™t mentioned on this forum, is something I recommended on XM a decade ago. Still hasnā€™t changed. (If I find something more effective, than Iā€™ll let everyone know.)

If one wants a DIRECT experience of ā€œGod/Oneness/Void/whatever labelā€, so one can stop intellectualizing/mentalizing about it and instead KNOW it, by experienceā€¦
then I recommend finding a qualified teacher of Zivorad Slavinskyā€™s ā€œSpiritual Technologyā€ technique.

Nearly all of those techniques, especially now, will allow you to have a direct experience of ā€œGod/Oneness/Void/Tao/etcā€ in a little as 20-30 minsā€¦max maybe a couple sessions of an hour long if thereā€™s strong resistance.

Then one can come back here to the forums and stumble over limiting words about what ā€œGod isā€ and see the utter futility of it beyond metaphor and pointing ā€œto the thingā€

Can I leave now? :wink: :joy:

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I canā€™t believe you guys actually did this. :joy:
Bet noone here will dare to ask how to get laid anymore.

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  1. The male dominance of that time was rather strong. A woman was seen as less credible as a man. I believe that refering to God as ā€œFatherā€ was just so that it was more acceptable at that time.

But there is a potential other reason.
God is a more masculine force, and the holy spirit is a more feminine force.

Which is why the ā€œtrinityā€ is often seen as just parts of a whole, that whole being the creator.

Lots of different interpretations, but considering those concepts are more ā€œpaganā€ (lots of the bible is ā€œpaganā€ to be fair) Iā€™m more likely to say the reason was to make it acceptable to the culture at the time.

  1. Generalizing God to energy is a bitā€¦ wellā€¦ general Iā€™d say. Energy has lots of qualities. Iā€™d prefer to use the Kabbalah as a reference for this point specifically but Iā€™ll say this. You can think of ā€œGodā€ as energy, sure. Fundamentally everything is energy. I wouldnā€™t say ā€œlight/energyā€ though. There are many qualities of light, and although protons are a building block, that doesnā€™t mean that ā€œlightā€ of whatever form is also the makeup of all energy in all spheres of existence. It would potentially be more accurate to generalize as ā€œGod is all energyā€ rather than just ā€œenergyā€ itself.

This is assuming youā€™re using ā€œGodā€ and ā€œSourceā€ interchangeably. If youā€™re refering to more standard abrahamic interpretations of ā€œGodā€, God would still be an energy but more of a godform type of energy. An individuated ā€œWillā€ which can impregnate the fundamental energy (including the holy spirit) with said Will. Which is where the whole God = masculine, Holy Spirit = feminine idea comes in.

Point is this.
We donā€™t know what God is.

We know what weā€™ve been told God is, and due to many reasons weā€™re more likely to believe one narrative than another. I believe the ā€œSourceā€ narrative but thatā€™s all it is. A narrative.

Iā€™ve had ego deaths, oneness/unity experiences, but still I can only say Iā€™ve had the experiences. They donā€™t prove to me I have a higher self, and that Source exists. I can conclude they exist based on those experiences, but thatā€™s ā€œfilling in the gapsā€ with narrative. I donā€™t know if God exists, and if anyone does, theyā€™ve reached God themselves.

My 2 cents

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Isnā€™t the 3D is the lowest one and highest is the 12D? And theres nothing below 3D?

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And where is this list?

Maybe God is yang more than yin and that is why he was called a he thousands of years ago by some. He spoke into the darkness and things came to exist in that darkness because he spoke into it. That is yang inserting itself into yin. Iā€™m thinking of a certain Richard Grannon talk as I write this. Let me find it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTBtLE3ESLs

If you have triggers that can be triggered, maybe donā€™t watch this. Otherwise, I think he has some interesting things to say about yin and yang and masculinity and femininity.

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Here are the posts, that I could find, with book recommendations from @_OM:

And from this post:

On that note, Hawkins has written extensively on the challenges of those rare higher levels of consciousness even beyond ā€œbasicā€ Enlightenment.
Instead of me writing long paragraphs like Sammyg (hi Sammy!), I would recommend his 2nd and 3rd books in his Power v Force trilogy. ā€œEye of the Iā€ and ā€œIā€
They will help you navigate them from someone whoā€™s been there done that.

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Thank you very much for finding these information and posting it here. :blush:

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No worries :smiley:

Collected the book titles in a .txt file so the posts were easy to find!

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