Another Copy Paste NFT Project :-(

I didn’t say that “you personally are not using that field”.

I said that “most people who want to do alien NFTs fields have probably not much used the existing free fields”.

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Yeah, but did you even understood my point at all?

You are reciting the same argument from people already made about “the exclusivity of ideas”.

So here for you again:

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I fail to see it? The description of Arc light is not that big, its just that due to the nature of the field (it being an servitor or intelligent energy made by the arcturians) it has the potential to cover almost everything Arcturian related.

That does not mean that you can say that everything else that is a more specified approach is a rip off.

If we’re going to look at it literally and put the descriptions next to each other you’d see that there is no copy and pasting going on.

the project you are talking about being copypaste has no servitor involved and the projects goals are specified and named

It seems like you are trying to say that anything arcturian focused thing is an copy even though its not, even if one comes up with different and specified concepts involving arcturians you’d most likely end up saying thats its a rip off as well because its something the arc light can perhaps cover

I think this might be more of an ego issue and trying to maintain the NFTs market value

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As far as I remember, you’ve always been like this.
In the end, we have to say, “This is Silver.Sky.”
…and then just move on.

nah… that’s just a little facet of the sparkling diamond that JAAJ is. I am entranced with the other facets :heart: I’ve read the forum for a few years before becoming a member.

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This is correct.

But so does the FREE field on Dream Seeds too!

For it to not be a rip off, it has to focus on something specific in my opinion.

I mean not direct literal copy pasting but the copying of the same ideas.

The ciritizied project above clearly focuses on brain enhancment and the Arcturian Light Body, which has been clearly done before.

This is of course also one of the reasons.

As mentioned, people who brainstormed and invested into previous projects should have the right to protect their investments.

We are not a communist society here.

Some things are precious and rare.

That was even of Captain’s original ideas when he invented the NFT fields thing!

People were complaying about the low count of some of the NFTs, but Captain clearly said that it is what makes it rare and special.

So, just because someone 3 years later wants to have something, does not mean that other NFT owners have to simply allow for their investments to be devalued.

And again, everyone here wants to see the value of their NFTs to go up, yet barely anyone wants to do the work to protect that value!?!?

There are NFT projects that are joined by the same people again and again. I know that most of them are not even working with those, they just do reselling. But you are not critizing this?

I think it is okay if people join projects for reselling, but no one with a communist mindset should come in here and say that it is a “bad ego thing to want to earn money and protect one’s investment”.

There is nothing wrong with protecting one’s investment.
This is not an ego thing.
We are simply to a socialist totalitarian system here.

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For the love of all that is good.

Regardless of JAAJ’s motivation, regardless of how any of you “feel” about exclusivity, etc. The following precedents exist:

  1. Regardless of NFTs with similar outcomes, all are overall, unique approaches. (In response to the muscles/brain etc).
  2. Right or wrong, JAAJ ‘gate-keeps’ ALL unoriginal ideas and does similar “I advise we don’t make this”, regardless of subject matter, his own projects, etc from what I’ve seen.

So now, knowing those two things, even if you don’t agree with JAAJ, can you still hold up a counter-argument of bias, without meeting the points head on? Because that’s what many of you are doing, you’re employing logical fallacies and anti-capitalist sentiment (against a capitalist vehicle that was designed to be that way and argued in favor of on this very forum, I might add) to NOT actually address the argument. “Well, he’s trying to keep all NFTs exclusive so his own remain so”… okay, go try a generic version of Manhattan Method submitted for approval, see how that works out for you. Even if JAAJ’s entire argument is selfishly and monetarily motivated, which only he can know, that doesn’t make it an invalid argument.

The research comment, even outside of exclusivity, is spot on. Your (general-you) role in a community NFT project is to do Captain’s non-Captain work for him. You come up with an overall guidance towards a dish, he mixes up the recipe and presents his take. The group does research on the subject, available fields/sub-fields that can be pulled from existing sub-fields; its directly part of the old guidelines. Dr. Manhattan alone talks about folders with hundreds of files to research his own submissions, and I dare say he’s one of the more approved co-creators.

To say you did no research and just “I’d like to work with Arcturians”… yeah, go use the free fields. And “I’d like to work with Arcturians more deeply than the free fields” is nothing, especially if the way in which you wish to do so is mostly covered by another project, which again, would be known if the required research step was taken.

Based on observation alone, so take it with a grain of salt. Similar outcomes in fields/NFTs are not defined by a single ‘gimmick’ or two, they’re entirely different, well defined, approaches. Kind of like a beef wellington and a hamburger both use beef but are NOT the same dish.

I agree, and JAAJ can take my opinion or leave it, that the approach he takes/took is not ‘bed-side manner’ worthy. Fair enough, we can’t all be SammyG. HOWEVER, just in my short time on the forums, this is a REGULAR thing; enough that anyone who’s been here for a while should know better and see the argument for what it is on merit alone, even going so far as to disregard who’s making it or their potential motivations.

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I think that a Balanced Approach needs to be employed here -

  1. Yes there should be no Copycat Projects, but if 2 projects achieve the SAME Goal by Mostly Using Different Concepts and Approaches then they should not be labelled as Copies of each other ( For Example the Height, Muscle and Fitness based NFT’s).

  2. If someone believes that a newly proposed project is a Copy-Paste of their and Someone else’s older projects then as @Beast pointed out, they should do a Line-By-Line Comparison of the Project Descriptions of ALL the concerned projects and SHOW to the Moderators that Exactly How much of their Sub-Fields and other Concepts and Ideas used in the Older Projects have been Copied by the Newly proposed project.

  3. In case the Accuser does not want to make the Project Descriptions of the Older Projects PUBLIC for the sake of this Comparison Exercise, then in that Case he can carry out this Line-By-Line Comparison Activity inside a Private Group consisting of the Moderators, the accuser (Aka the Owner of the Older Project) and the accused (Aka the Owner of the Newly Proposed Project).

  4. The Final Decision and Veto regarding the status of a Project being a Copycat or not rests with the Creator (Captain).

Points Number 2 and 4 are the Most important here because they ensure that the Allegations of CopyCat projects are decided on the Basis of ACTUAL FACTS…[And FINAL Discretion of the Creator (Captain)]… instead of being decided on the basis of Mere Opinions/Allegations of the Accuser.

@JAAJ LET IT GO man, stop trying to force outcomes and rules. There are already established rules, prodecures that are followed. A lot less projects are being made these days, not because of lack of submission but rather cause somewhere in that process it was deem unoriginal or something else. Work with the NFTs you got to progress in whatever way you deem fit and allow the life on this forum to carry on and evolve.

You can’t force change.

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Well, by that argument Arc Brain and Arc Light Body shouldn’t exist, because in theory the Arc Light servitor CAN do anything the Arcturians can—or at least enough to make those projects moot.

Infinitely teachable.

And yet the other two projects exist. So ‘can’ isn’t much of limiting argument.

And actually I read through Arc Temple project. It’s not a copy paste. For starters, it asks for direct contact—not a servitor. That seems like a big difference.

Arc Brain and Arc Light Body are downright passive compared to this field. Those fields just ask the Arcturians to make a great brain/light body field. This Temple Field wants people to learn from the Arturians. Learn

So subfields A and B of Main field 3 correspond with the Arcturian brain and Arc Light Body, though I think subfield B is unnecessary given what is in the other fields.

Now the preamble about the Arcturians being the oldest, wisest, kindest, etc., is a copy past of sorts, but that’s just their titles, like defender of the faith, first of his name and all that.

My read, for what it’s worth, is that the descriptions of the other Arcturian fields are vague and passive—nothing wrong with that—I wouldn’t presume to tell them what to do, but this project does not do that. It asks to learn from them—directly. I’m proud that our fellow forum members can garner such ambition.

To @Zen ’s point. That’s evolution.

Edited for clarity.

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i think that, before rushing to talk about communist mentality and capitalist mentality, it’s not about that. Dream makes NFTs, but these NFTs are not painted tissues destined to be watched just for the enchantment of the eye and then put in vaults of banks, like investment gold . All NFTs made by Dream have another purpose , they are made to help people , in whatever ways they feel they need to be helped, either with illnesses or soul healing or body / mind / spirit developing and expanding. This is their real purpose, so, even if the NFTs are traded like material goods, they and their real purpose are way beyond that.
That’s why talking about them in investment terms is like… talking about the investment value of the shroud of Turin, or something

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But as to @Jaaj ‘s point about using the free Arcturian field, that’s a good reminder. I do forget about those fields. Mostly, I use alien intercession and leave it at that, but I’ll sleep to the Arcturian sounds and see what comes of it.

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Arc Light is not a servitor.
This was a misunderstanding by _OM.
It is something much much much more powerful.

If you are “only” looking for an Arcturian made servitor, there is already the “Orion (Arcturian Servitor) NFT” available.

I am going to post some quotes from Captain here so that this old rumor that “Arc Light is a servitor” gets debunked once and for all:

So yes, Arc Light can do EVERYTHING that the Arcturians themselves approve of.
It also includes the “Light and Vibrational Guidance” part that was mentioned above.

So back to my point, the critiziced new NFT projects has ZERO Original Ideas that have not be made before and are covered by Arc Light NFT, Arc Light Body NFT, Arcturian Brain NFT and Orion Arcturian Servitor NFT.

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I understand what you are saying.

For helping people Captain releases A LOT of free fields or for patreon price.

These are most of the fields available and that are out there.

As mentioned, those free fields also include aliens and other uncommon things, which the average human being does not need to progress.

There are also a ton of free spiritual fields, most people just don’t seem to understand their value and work with them.

When once asked about his pricing policy Captain responded:

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Yeah. I was doing a quick read of the description because I was trying to grasp your point—and your heat. Because to my mind your bringing a lot of heat on someone who was did some work to submit a project. That’s all he was doing. I took a side because I didn’t like what was happening. Still on that side. So, I agree. It’s more than a servitor. More than a servitor that is near limitless. Okay. Not actually all that concerned with how great Arc Light is. The greater it is, the worse your argument is.

Again, by your CAN logic Arc Brain and Arc Light Body are also derivative and add nothing. I just don’t see CAN as much of a limiting principle.

Maybe the Temple project can just have the Arturian’s help to connect the user to the the civilizations the Arcturian’s themselves aspire to emulate—or would that not be allowed.

Disclosure—don’t own an Arc Light or any Arcturian NFT. From what I read, they seem like a nice species, maybe one of the best. I’m guessing they’re patient, kind, and respectful to those with less experience and power who are trying to make contact or learn from them. Has that been your experience with them?

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This here:

This is not just about Arcturian NFTs.
As you may have seen I am in general trying to fight unoriginal copy paste ideas or ideas stolen from existing projects. This is not related to only the NFTs that I own.

It seems I am the only one who cares and raises his voice here, while everyone else seems to be okay that the most generic, most basic, most unoriginal stuff is submitted by certain users.
Totally disrespectful.
Not only is this a mockery of the hard work and creativity of others forum members in the past, but also a disrespect to Captain to come to him with a proposal that has not been properly been thought and researched through.
Outsourcing their laziness is a form of disrepect.

And those who say “to simply let go”, have no basic sense of justice in my opinion.
When “shit hits the fan”, those are the people that you cannot rely on in real life because they will not back you up – because they don’t see and share the values that you are trying to live by and therefore they just say “why bother? let it go”.

The free Arcturian field on Dreams Seeds does this.
And again, how many of those people who voted for this new NFT project are actually or have actually actively worked with it? Only a few…

As before, I am giving the recommendation to create a unique project idea, that is throught through and researched to the detail.
Just like for example, Ugninis and Dr_Manhattan research their projects.
I have seen some of these, there are projects 100+ pages of research long.
This is what I call dedication, originality and respectful behavior towards the Captain to come to him with something nice.

In the end, this whole thread is my personal opinion.
I have certain values of integrity and justice that I follow and I am simply voicing my opinion here.
It is not my problem if others never raise their voice about anything.
Of course, it is easier to “just let go”.
But if you never stand up for anything worthwhile, then you stand for nothing.

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Why aren’t you then critizing those forum users, who enter EVERY single NFT project just to resell those NFTs? They never work with those in the first place, just making money…

I am not saying entering projects with the whole purpose of reselling is wrong or forbidden, but if you are going to critize the “investment argument”, you would probably need to critizise 70 to 90% of all NFT owners too, because almost everyone has at least a few copies stored up in order to resell them later…

In a sense, NFTs are indeed like material goods, because they are limited and only the actual owner can use them. This is a function of the NFTs themselves and it was purposefully chosen by Captain for certain fields to be this way. So NFTs having an “investment part” attached to them is natural and intended.

Yes, but also they will tell you in your face what you need to hear and what you need to work on. It is not for snowflakes and people who get easily offended. Basically, they are very similar to me in communication style, which is why I love them. I have parallel incarnations there.

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There would be no issues at all and a discussion like this would not even happen if everyone would simply research and submit their NFT projects like Unginis and Dr_Manhattan do it:

Original ideas, full of elaborated details and a lot of research.

I didn’t tell you to let it go. I said that the descriptions were different, and that I didn’t see the 95% claim that you were making.

and

I accept that you believe you are agent of justice, and, for the sake of argument, that your technically correct—the project goes over some line—can you see that your language MIGHT go over a line. Those are huge statements. Huge.

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i am so happy that those people do that, because , like this, more copies of these amazing fields will be made, and they will finally arrive (hopefully) to more people that are interested in them and use them for what they are, for their real purpose as fields.

As for the Arcturians, i am sure that the waves of ether brought the info to them, and they are reading this thread.
Their opinions about all the points of vue written here will probably be communicated if anyone cares to ask them and is able to receive their real answers.

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