But why?
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I know i’m late to the party, but I thought I’d say that Reiki isn’t really an energy that can be corrupted or polluted, nor can it harm people. Reiki is an entirely passive and benevolent energy. Whatever problems could have resulted may have been for different reasons.
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But it certainly is a reason that adds to his disbelief and underlying thought that it is all a large scam.
As with most people, the mass of actual experience of others doesn’t really count, as he is still waiting to be personally shown, Only his opinions matter, because they hold true to him, you are all just a bit crazy.
but of course, you need your own proof right?
So lets see how these crazy people fall for my tricks (by offering a ‘control’ item), so ’ i ’ can directly prove how crazy they really are.
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True.
I think there is a way to mess it up: by not doing reiki.
A lot of people/groups are teaching it and i guess some are probably scams.
If you end up with a technique where you use your own energy to heal someone, then I believe it can be harmful on the long run.
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Well, what can I say. Can’t deny it. The testimonials will only power my faith for so long until I crave an unambiguous personal experience. Currently, I’m running on other people’s testimonials and what I like to call ‘glimpses’ into this world. Where I can’t really tell whether it’s for real or my mind is playing tricks on me.
But I prefer to stay hopeful.
Nooo that is genuinely not true. I actually do already believe it because I have close family members who have experienced (general spirituality) and I believe them.
My reason for offering the control item is because I believe that the human mind will see what it expects to see. There is no ulterior motive to shame or humiliate people.
Although upon second thought, if by ’ i ', you mean my subconscious, it is possible. The lingering doubt that it is all a scam lies deep within my subconscious and he may very well have different motivations for the same action.
I’m often not sure about the motivation behind why I do certain things. But the best I can do is try to be honest and genuine in the moment of doing an action. So maybe you’re right, maybe you’re wrong. I try not to overthink things because it tends to spiral down into confusion like this.
Still, I’m not the kind of person who likes publicly humiliating people, even my enemies…so I am inclined to believe that the motivations behind using a control item were for my own purposes rather than an ulterior motive to trick people.
It’s why I chose to reveal that it was a control item. It wouldn’t make much sense to reveal such a thing after my ‘attempt at deception’ had failed.
I was just commenting,
not specifically engaging anything.
I said nothing offensive really, if i did,
my apologies.
I personally cannot understand why people think i am scamming anybody,
isn’t the dragon golem a free download?
Isn’t most of the stuff free and a lot have a general try before you buy, like the thor sigils/pendants, the whole of youtube etc.
I even personally ‘under’ write the descriptions to make it sound a lot less cooler than they are.
So how do you logically think its a scam, ?
Do you think everyone else here is ‘in’ on it? Or have some worldwide shared delusion?
Or only your opinions are valid…? that cant be because you went to school and follow the knowledge of what you were thought.
Maybe you are just locked into that thought then.
But then, how are the plants even scamming, are they also in on it?
I just cant see the complete thought process.
You have valid real people here sharing and talking, nobody is here to make you believe anything, I think they have already found their truths.
It is a valid experiment, no doubt.
But you are also ‘experimenting’ on your friends.
Its just all the other questions that one action raises.
Go ahead and experiment, but be respectful of the people around you.
Consider what would happen if your friend decided that he being the superior moral and higher intelligence, wishes to prove your stupidity by baiting and switching something in public for you.
Just saying… think about those around you and how your actions affect everyone.
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No offence taken. It is very easy to misunderstand people over the internet so I prefer to give people the benefit of doubt.
That’s the thing. My fears about it being a scam stem from the irrational part of my mind. They are not rational. It’s why I’m still here. I wouldn’t be here if I logically thought it was a scam.
Probably. I was an agnostic leaning towards atheist just a couple of years ago. It takes time for all that skepticism to dissolve.
And for that I am truly sorry. I’m not somebody who has a clear view of what is right or wrong.
And that’s the thing. Unless he outright insulted me, I personally wouldn’t be offended if this experiment was done on me. That’s the only thing I can go by. I wouldn’t be insulted by it so I thought it was okay to do it on other people. All I can do is apologise and not repeat it. And I’ve never once thought about myself as a superior moral and higher intelligence. That is just not who I am. If anything, I’m a guy who doubts his own motivations when other people analyse my intentions.
If this is possible, please…read my energy and intention. You would know that I am not lying or being disingenuous or trying to make people look stupid.
And looking back, my skepticism wasn’t even with whether the dragon was present or not. It was more about whether it can be sensed online and since there is a lot of confusion about this (I’ve seen other threads with a guy saying different things about dragons being depressed), I chose to conduct this experiment. Again, I am sorry for the offence caused and I saw no other way to conduct it.
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interesting! i always bought items because of your descriptions.
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My comment is completely independent of this “experiment” (i think Dewbob trusts you and your work Captain, I think it’s someone else he doesn’t trust).
Sometimes in my darker days I used to feel like maybe it was, indeed, a shared illusion. I don’t mean your work, I mean spirituality in general. Maybe it’s a trick and we play make belief because it’s better than to think that nothing in life actually matters and after a couple of years we die and then there is nothing else.
This is actually the main “fight” I have with my ego, a little voice nagging me to just stop and get on with stuff that is expected of me by society rather than spend time, energy and money on “this” (again, your work included,.but not exclusively).
Ego dissolution + SLR (and other fields i guess) have helped me with this tremendously, and I haven’t had this sort of existential crisis for a couple of weeks now :D
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This. You have managed to express what I have been struggling to verbalise all this time. It is not the genuineness that I doubt but the actual spirituality itself. Shared illusion as Monkey Owl so brilliantly put it. Thank you.
Still, even if it does turn out to be an illusion, it’s still something I would like to experience. Either way, I have full faith that the experiences actually exist and that (disappointing as it may be) is still good enough for me.
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You know yourself and your mind best, but I think the way to go forward is to ‘just do it’.
Just listen to the fields, just make the overnight playlist, just put it on because you have nothing to lose etc.
The star exercise that OM posted here - just do it twice day each day. Like don’t even consider not doing it, just do it. Don’t give yourself the mental opportunity to back out. For me what works is to approach it like “I’ll to this every day until X date, then when I’m there, I’ll reconsider”. And then not think about it anymore, just take action. It’s actually easy because it’s quick, just one exercise. The practice I did before was ~45-60 mins each day.
And then… as I said, I haven’t had this sort of existential crisis for weeks now which is probably my life time record. It all clearly works 
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I would like to do the Star exercise but I’m currently in a place where I cannot be close to nature and ground myself on grass (without wearing any shoes). Is it okay if I do it in my room?
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Yes of course.
I’m close to nature but it’s close to 0 degree here so no way am I going to go outside barefoot to do anything 
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Is doing it in my room okay then?
Yes, it is okay!
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Also @Atreides knows this because he has read my energy, but I am apparently a very complicated difficult person to read. I am basically a contradiction in every possible way. I agree with one view but I simultaneously also agree with the opposite view.
I’ve just gotta accept the fact that I am always bound to be misunderstood (I’ve literally made enemies here without every wanting to). And it’s probably best to keep my mouth shut and listen. And take a leap of faith and come up with my own experiences.
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Reiki doesn’t have backlash. Egos have backlash. So you learn Reiki, or do Reiki to someone else… and this goes for ALL modalities. Even dieting. And then you quit, or they quit, or whatever. All the dirty crap comes back with a vengeance. Becoming healthier and bigger and badder and better is always 2 steps forward, 1 step back, but it’s the step back that allows you to propel yourself the two steps forward.
“Backsliding” is a thing, but it’s certainly not the fault of Reiki.
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I agree. I’ve personally never done Reiki but that seems to be the case for all the spiritual things I do. Just when I think I’m makin progress, I’m pushed backwards with a vengeance. It’s a tough path man. But I try to do whatever possible at the moment.
Alright for anybody else reading this thread who feels like I have committed an unpardonable sin…
PLEASE, put yourself in my shoes.
You have made yourself a dragon. And you don’t seem to be feeling its effects yet even after a month. Still, that doesn’t matter as long as you just get to know whether there’s a dragon in your item or not.
Now you do some searching on the threads and you find multiple people saying vastly different things about not only the presence of these dragons but also the nature of these dragons (do they become depressed if you don’t talk to them? Do they commit suicide??!!)
You’re left more confused than before and the only thing you can do is conduct an experiment. But what you’ve seen so far suggests that each person perceives these dragons differently and you start to question its objectivity. You decide that you want to conduct an experiment to test this as objectively as possible.
Now you could tell the others that you are conducting the experiment with a control. But how would that change their perception of the dragon? Would they subconsciously pick the ring because it looks more valuable? The only option here is to hide the fact that you are conducting an experiment.
Am I such an evil douchebag for doing this? Ffs I’m just a guy in my 20s who’s barely grown up and wants to do a little better in life. I totally wouldn’t mind if someone did an experiment like this on me if it helped them.
Isn’t that what ego dissolution is all about? What is all this nonsensical petty fighting about being offended and making someone feel guilty? That to me DEFINITELY doesn’t sound like it’s coming from a dissolved ego. I’ve never even asked my bullies to apologise to me. It has never mattered to me so I’m perplexed as to why a dissolved ego would need an apology.
I’ve done nothing but give everyone the benefit of doubt and all I ask is to be treated the same. But instead it’s like the more honest and open I am, the more I get attacked and made out to be this monster.
For the LAST time, I’m not out here to trick anyone nor do I want to make fools of people. I’m just a 21 year old loser still trying to figure out myself. That’s all it is. I try to be a nice guy but I’m sick and tired of being misunderstood all the time and being forced to feel guilty about offences I did not mean to cause (this happens in real life too).
So yeah. I’m really not a bad guy. I’m really not 
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Everyone perceives EVERYTHING differently. When something is not visible, it is even more so.
(Actually another fault of your experiment was that e.g. if I thought one didn’t have a dragon, I would not have written it down since I don’t want to write something that’s possibly bullshit, you know what I mean?) -
Yes, I know it’s confusing to read different things… it’s confusing for me too sometimes, but when in doubt, just check what the Captain / Sammy say - which is quite clear in this case (no they don’t get depressed etc)
You need to learn to trust yourself more.
Also let it go, you already apologised and they accepted it, no one is calling you out to apologise, at least from where I’m reading
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