What would you think, and/or do, if you were to learn you would cease to exist after death ?
what would be your state of being/mind?
Personally, I was a little disappointed to lean about reincarnation. I mean, it could be fun, as long as it stops one day.
I found it comforting to believe that I would just pop, do my thing and disappear with no consequences, no connections, nothing, black emptiness forever. Sounds resting and beautiful.
If it start all over again as soon as it ends. It loses something.
The end gives meaning, if itâs the only life you have, you go harder. Last game of your career, you make it count more.
thanks a lot for that answer
SOunds scary, but reincarnation sounds more scary imv.
Iâm a (bad) buddhist, and I strive to get out of here. Iâve suffered so much more than many people. Even nothingness sounds very scaryâspecially if you actually conceive itâbut less intimidating. After all, you wonât be there to get scared and suffer it.
It would be boring I think. Most people die with regrets, so death is like a summer break before your school begins again so that now you can try the things you didnât consider before, having one lifetime negates the purpose of existence which is to exist and nothing else.
If you have not seen the movie Mr. Nobody, you may like it.
Also, many people who think there is only one life, want to do more, achieve more, burn themselves out and think they have experienced everything on the planet but it is not possible for any human to experience everything.
I suppose that depends on who you believe âyouâ is.
Itâs all one, so surrendering whatâs left of body/mind identity to embrace beingness.
For years I was an Agnostic (not claiming to know anything âspiritualâ or a âhigher truthâ or about âGodâ, etc., you basically admit that you donât know what you donât know ) And I was scared of death, for a short while I thought that death is the end and to be honest, I still have no idea What happens after I die, I guess Iâll find out lol, hopefully laaaater.
Nowadays, I donât believe anything, I only see what works for me, but I do not have Hard Beliefs (You can see me asking a lot on this forum, but except practical things, I dont even know why do I ask, I guess to have/see/know other perspectives/views) about anything, including what happens after death, what is this reality, who or what is god, who am i, why does life exists, etc.
There are so many theories, we could all be a.i. or something Caught in a Great Experiment (virtual world, maybe?) and we think we are all amazing, we are gods, etc., also âbrain in a jarâ or âhallucination hypothesisâ amongst a million other theoriesâŚ, so, then, what happens after âdeathâ? Who knowsâŚ
Still, I wonât get caught either in so many hypothesis OR in materialism, where some people want us to believe that we are small, âjust some chemicalsâ, at their (rulersâ) mercy And DEPENDENT on their Financial System, Banks, Big Farma, Science, etc.
And, back to the question, I was so scared of Death (I was terrified of losing Life, perception, pleasures, joy, relationships, senses, consciousness, etc.) that I began believing in God for my own mind/safety/good, I thought âWell, I got nothing to lose if God does not exist, But I will at least have some comfort AND Possible Spontaneous Remission and Placebo actually workingâ (something along those lines)âŚ
Anyway, now I am less scared of death, but not a fan either.
I have an apt quote for your situation which is the same with many from Joseph Campbell,
âLife is like arriving late for a movie and trying to figure out what is happening without asking a lot of questions and being called away without knowing how it would endâ.
It is, fortunately and unfortunately.
I donât think learning that would matter much. It might change stated beliefs, but underlying assumption ms and behavior would remain the same. The presumption of some level of life after death/continuation of existence is hardwired in us.
I wrote all my input and opinion on this question here:
Even your phone, the texts on the screen, the air that you breathe, the bed from which you you lay, the water and food that you consume, the multiple dimensions, all the animals, all the people, all your thoughts, all of time, all of your perspectives, all material and otherwise, all of life and all of death, is all one
The I am one and I am all realization
But game isnt to be earned by simply hearing it, itâs to be realized, but i think hearing it can help prepare one for their great âah-hah!â moment lol
I donât know about that but think of it like this, may be parents here would agree, when they play hide and seek with their kid for the first time, they will feel an unexplainable joy when their kid is looking all around the house to find them, sometimes they start crying that is when parents rush to the kids.
Similarly Source delights in knowing and must be in joy, we all want to get back to it, playing hide and seek with it using different themes.
I think Iâd feel relieved. No weight of eternal consequences. Iâm happy with the current set up and yet⌠it would be like hearing school is permanently cancelled right now while right in the middle of stressing over writing a final essay.
Which is a weird analogy. Because Iâm not stressed. But if anything justified stress I think that would be it. If stress could actually improve performance or results. Which I basically donât think it does.
But that would be something worthy of stress if anything was. Eternal consequences. Whether good or bad or in between. Anything that lasts forever would have to be of ultimate importance if anything at all had importance.
So, long answer short, I think Iâd feel relief. I imagine Iâd feel some degree of depression mixed with maybe existential crisis. But I only imagine that because I figure that would be the normal human response. On a more personal level specific to me, once again; relief.
âMortalist propagandaâ is good phrase.
This thought experiment has been tried. Usually, itâs a presumption/burden of proof issue. Get rid of the the afterlife beliefs and people will lose the various fears. In the West, the ideas secularism, atheism-lite, humanism, socialism, etc are on the rise as are diagnoses of anxiety.
The belief in the afterlife was never the source of fear and dread. Itâs the feeling of incompleteness and isolation thatâs more prevalent in modern society. Fix that and the fear will go away. People will still believe in the afterlife, the same way they believe in angels or that their dogs understand them.
Actually, dogs make the argument well. What if you learned your dog was just a biological machineâno soul, no deep connection? I suspect nothing would change because the relationship with your dog isnât based on anything as unreal as knowledge or beliefs; youâre human and he/she is dogâthereâs nothing more to it.
Lol, I seen a thing where they got 2 sets of people and they told bias facts to them, one group told them how stress can improve levels of focus and the speed of ur brain and things like that and the other group was told how stress affect them negatively and the way the two groups performed on stressful tasks where parallel to the group they were in
I donât see the point in reincarnation or anything if my ego ceases to exist.
I mean, what is the point of anything beyond death if the whole structure lf who you are vanishes? It would be the same as if you were unborn. Nothing differentiates you from any other entity.
Ego is what gives us a sense of separation and being different from other things.
If that is gone we are gone too.
That is interesting. I do feel like some stress can be helpful for a very short term task like getting out of an unsafe situation while driving if it helps you to focus. But even then itâs the kind of stress that is focused on momentary physical realty rather than on existential and relational issues.
Spoiler: it does not
Also there are different types of âegoâ.
While the ego that is based on the physical limbic brain and that is responsible for physical survival may vanish with the death of the physical body, the ego that makes up your individuality and personality does not.
Also, also, as I tried to explain to you for many times in the past, none of these types of ego or personality and individuality is the actual you. You are consciousness and everything else is a tool for it. Most people on the planet identify with their role on purpose per game design and because your Higher Self wanted to experience it this way.
As immortal eternal consciousness you are free to use any and all possible types of filters, roles, personality setups, individuality setups, egos etc. through which you want to experience reality.
If you donât believe me, read Dreamweaverâs post:
I mean, the whole idea of you or me is consequential of a set of differences created through an infantâs capacity to divide, fragment and identify in units stuff that is not divided, fragmented or identical to itself beyond the infantâs perception. Because there is no differentiated reality beyond abstractions created through the serial mind.
How can that set of series precede its own created reality?
I think it is more believable that the set of series can continue to function beyond death (because who knows in which dimension it functions). But not before it was created.
Before creation, it cannot logically exist or function.