First one is Vesteria, just discussed above, you can join his Discord, see what’s is going on there now (no idea) and judge on your own.
Second one is from creator that seem to be very open and responsive, some other forum members reported positive experience with his fields and interactions with Tobisteles.
Personally I recommend Tobisteles myself to others.
Best public protection from Sapien Medicine should be https://forum.enlightenedstates.com/t/shielding-3-0/40499