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[BeHappy]

@anon85231594

When you purchase an advanced file, you receive the file. What we then do with the money is our responsibility. It is not a donation from the buyers part.

Well, I kinda agree with him. He has earned the money and it’s up to him whatever he wants to do with it, whether he donates the complete amount or a part of it or he keeps it to himself, it’s all up to him.

I personally feel the dude is legit. If he cared about money, he would’ve opened a Patreon page instead of providing free download of his YouTube fields on his website and wouldn’t have gave his viewers the option to directly pay to a charity site instead of paying on his website.

@anon85231594

Here’s a topic for the next one…Shiva says there is a group of people at Spirituality Zone….Where are they? He’s lying……so then, someone like yourself, will write in and ask for the drivers license or passport photos of everyone in the group, because unless you see that, we’re not legit.

Lol, I’m sure someone might pop up in the future asking this question.

@anon85231594

I also find it interesting it takes weeks for him to produce one file, while it takes 2 hours for Captain, huge skill difference or just enormous difference in method?

Enormous difference in method.

He claims to use ‘natural energy fields’ and if you’re energy sensitive, the difference becomes obvious. I’ve been using morphic fields/energetically programmed audios since last few years and I’ve never encountered a problem like the field or energy being too strong for my system. But SZ’s fields are different, they feel like literal blocks of energy and when they interact with your system, you can actually feel it and it might be too strong for some and that’s why he recommends not to listen to his multiple fields consecutively.

The energy is obviously there, and as Jen mentioned, they are well intentioned and I do not sense any dark or negative energy in them.

@anon85231594

I mean I guess it’s proof that people make donations to receive files

I myself can attest to this, I’m from India and I don’t have PayPal or Credit card and the 1st ever file I purchased from him was through donation to the charity website, and if you want I can show you the proof.

@anon85231594

I tried my best to sound as polite as possible with the ask.

You did a good job man

[anonymous111]

This one is my receipt of donation to an Indian Charity Organization for an advanced file.

[anon85231594]

Yes, I never doubted that they/he give out advanced files if people show receipt for donations. I doubted the accuracy of the full statement that all earnings go to charity. I don’t think it’s legit or fair to make such a statement and then get passive-aggressive and defensive and refusing to show proof of it being true. Maybe you guys feel it’s reasonable, I don’t.

Here’s the final one, I blurred out parts that he wished to keep secret (name and info showing), but it was a donation to a person he had made. Plus blurred more in-depth of my own opinion on this which I chose to keep between him and me out of respect since I believe , regardless of statement being true or not, that he has helped/will help more people in his lifetime than the average person ever will.

[anon85231594]

@BeHappy

Enormous difference in method.

He claims to use ‘natural energy fields’ and if you’re energy sensitive, the difference becomes obvious. I’ve been using morphic fields/energetically programmed audios since last few years and I’ve never encountered a problem like the field or energy being too strong for my system. But SZ’s fields are different, they feel like literal blocks of energy and when they interact with your system, you can actually feel it and it might be too strong for some and that’s why he recommends not to listen to his multiple fields consecutively.

The energy is obviously there, and as Jen mentioned, they are well intentioned and I do not sense any dark or negative energy in them.

I’m definitely not skilled enough or energy sensitive in the slightest to be able to feel energy from fields other than noticing if they had an impact on me afterwards (or during sometimes). So I can’t argue there.

I also think he deserves whatever monetary income he gets from his work, because like I said, in the end he is helping so much more than the average person ever will.

I can’t get away from that I’m disappointed in his disrespectful and unprofessional tone in his replies however.

[anonymous111]

@anon85231594

I don’t think it’s legit or fair to make such a statement and then get passive-aggressive

I don’t think he is obliged to show you a proof of his helping an homeless person on the street. If you’re not sensitive enough what you can do is read comments under his videos, his interaction with his users and gauge his genuineness.

If you’re still not satisfied with his replies to your questions then you can ignore him as Sapien offers everything you need and be at peace.

[anon25490707]

Well, there was a point at which you basically said that if he delayed answering you it would look like (to a group, it was implied) he was trying to hide something

People are busy, so trying to put pressure on him to respond quickly or else you may come to negative conclusions is probably part of why he reacted the way he did. I don’t think many would react well to that, honestly.

I think the fact that he responded to you with such depth was very respectful, and he did have a right to answer in the way he did. I’m not sure where you thought what he said was disrespectful

[anon85231594]

That’s so interesting how you interpret that. I can point out several places where he was showing disrespect and passive-aggressive assumptions. I will do that tomorrow after I’ve gotten some sleep. This reply baffles me, but also gets me super curious at the obvious bias in the reply.

Delayed answering does not mean that he has to answer within a day, or even a week obviously.

Did you miss this part on purpose? "Silence/no reply for a long period"

What a shocking reply from you, haha. I can’t get over the bias. I’m gonna have to come back tomorrow and we will dissect his reply to me, because I’m extremely interested in how you’ll defend it.

“He did have a right to answer the way he did” According to who, you, because you like him and listen to his fields? It’s been a long time I saw such an emotionally and illogical bias-filled reply from anyone

[anon25490707]

Well, that’s your opinion :) and I have my opinions about your opinion, about my opinion - but, it doesn’t really matter. I’m not going to die on this hill, and if you’re hell bent to find something wrong with SZ then go right ahead.

[anon85231594]

Rather an intense form of curiosity than opinion! - it reminds me a little bit of groupie-mentality, that might sound disrespectful, speaking of that, but it genuinely does because of how irrational and biased your reply was. Your post here is equally irrational, you’re looking for things that doesn’t exist.

I’ve stated numerous times that I have nothing against him, and if i’m proven wrong I will without hesitation admit it. You’ve chosen to ignore that as well.

Perhaps it was also disrespectful and wrong of the lawyers to dig deeper in to Amber Heards statement of how she had donated millions to charity? And yes, I can make that comparison - because the purpose of her statement was solely to put her in a good light to the public and gain favorable reputation. It’s super common for famous and semi-famous, even non famous people to make such statements, that everything / a bunch of going towards charity etc, in order to raise their status and goodwill-reputation.

Unfortunately our discussion when we dissect this is going to make SZ look even worse, which is something I didn’t want really, but I also have my principles of defending myself, which I definitely will against such an irrational reply as yours aimed to me. You didn’t really do SZ any favor with that reply, to say the least.

[anon85231594]

Thanks for suggesting options to ignore him, I was aware of it - I chose not to.

[anon25490707]

Look not to be rude, I gave my opinion which you asked for. I’m sorry you didn’t like my opinion, but I dont wish to discuss this with you further. I didn’t agree with your approach, it isn’t how I would have worded it. It sounded rude.

And you’re being rude now.

[anon85231594]

I’m being honest and gave you my opinion as well, I might as well call you rude for making such an irrational and biased statement and reply, if you can defend that with “just my opinion” then I will as well.

I’m going to give you an extensive reply tomorrow, when I dissect his replies towards me and see if you understand his passive aggressive, and disrespectful tone in general in his replies. I don’t care if you wish to discuss it further or not, just don’t reply to that if that’s the case. But you can’t really reply to me with something that I find baffling and then expect to “not discuss this further” because I will defend it and ask you several questions when I dissect it tomorrow, you can chose to ignore if you want.

[anonymous111]

Your welcome. You choose to waste our time instead. Go ahead.

[anon85231594]

How am I in control of what you chose to do with your time? You give me way too much power and credit than what is reasonable.

[anon85231594]

The only way I won’t take this further is if you introspect a little and realize how irrational and biased your post is/was and either edit it or remove it. It simply goes against every single core value of mine to let something like that go unanswered. If you stand by it - we just have to take it further because you don’t get to decide when the discussion ends for us both - only when it ends for yourself.

[BeHappy]

May peace be with you, my friend.

[profreak]

Where did you even come from lol

[anon85231594]

Thanks for your input, I’ll read it later, but you had nothing to do with this from the start and I don’t really care for discussing this with you at the moment, I’ll read yours and give you a proper reply after the discussion with Jen is done on my end.

You seem to have a tendency to jump the bandwagon in a lot of my discussions, you’re entitled to your opinion for sure, and we’ll have to agree to disagree on the well being’s matter, although I did agree that your reply was slightly better, but I strongly disagreed with the rest, and it’s not relevant here either.

[anon85231594]

I know right. Newfrogs like me should know their place and fall in line to the forum hierarchy.

Also @anonymous111 , it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who you are.

Have some self respect please, and stand for who you are and what you post here when confronting me on another platform. I still have nothing against you and I said a lot of positive things about you, which were ignored, of course.

[FractalReality]

Guys let’s cool this down on the Venting or Disputes sections!