And I asked for it to be unlisted. It’s a heavy thread with quite a bit of arguing and drama behind it. Instead of deleting it, I decided to allow people who were a part of it to still engage. But it certainly ended up getting out of hand after some time of being up.
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understood, im just explaining to Violet what happened and to Rosechalice what Violet meant.
and i also understand Violets sentiment because when i was looking for that thread it was also the first uncomfortable gut feeling i got, knowing that Dream was voicing his perception of the things and the thread had been unlisted, when never before a thread where Dream has voiced his venting etc was unlisted except this one, so yeah it could raise some eyebrows as to know why exactly, when people in the public or outside the paid memebership is trying to understand several things, like if is really him posting new fields, what is his sentiment re the past few month etc
like why only the ones paying patreon could see it, when its about the forum and whats happening.
wouldnt have been clearer and easier to have addressed things there Sammy? instead of none of you (Moderators and you) saying anything at all then quitely unlisting it. it did look weird tbh.
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Sam, thank you for responding.
The problem is the audience—specifically, the messaging that is being presented to them.
The Farewell Announcement from November, which publicly states that Dream is gone, is still active and visible for all to see. And while I do appreciate that you informed the Patreon group of his new content and storefront, that message is not in the same publicly visible space as the original announcement. That’s the core issue.
There is no equally visible correction or update under the same Announcement category to reflect Dream’s current activity. So for anyone visiting the forum without Patreon access, the impression remains that Dream has left—and that is simply untrue.
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Fair enough, we’ll post an announcement that is publicized in the same manner as well.
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Thank you, I appreciate it.
And while I understand you have your reasons for changing the format of the forum, I just want to ensure that all of Dream’s content here remains accessible to non-members, as that would more accurately reflect Dream’s own current positioning and intentions.
Also, @Alice11 — thank you for that clarification. While the information may be unlisted, for those who only have access to this portion of the forum, a general paraphrasing is worth offering. No one person holds a monopoly on truth, but it’s important to recognize that everyone carries their own narrative — including Dream, who, up to this point, has not been given a full and fair opportunity to share his own:
Over the past several months, Dream has not had the space to speak openly or reflect his intentions accurately — a silence shaped, in large part, by miscommunication and misinterpretation by others. Much of what has impacted the forum environment appears to stem from misunderstanding, assumption, or narratives formed in the absence of full context.
Out of respect, there was a choice to remain quiet. But now that Dream has stepped forward, the need for clarity becomes all the more essential — especially considering how often his boundaries have been crossed.
As for the reasons why those boundaries were crossed — that is a separate matter. But what can be acknowledged is the profound impact miscommunication can have, and the way unchecked narratives can shape perception far more powerfully than intended. And while the intentions of others may have been sincere at the outset, the consequences of their actions resulted in confusion, frustration, and ultimately, unnecessary distress. It is possible those involved meant well. But, it’s also likely they found themselves in over their heads.
Ergo, to protect his peace and well-being, Dream has remained silent — a necessary silence, though one that has left ample room for speculation. Naturally, this absence of direct communication has caused confusion. But in any period of uncertainty, the first priority must be stability — before answers can follow.
And yet, even in that silence, Dream was still thinking of others. When I asked him his reasoning for removing everything, he had a genuine reasoning. It is worthwhile mentioning I did not find an iota of malice or spite which shaped his reasoning.
During these past few quiet months, Dream has been far from absent— he has been creating. For everyone. The project he was focused on is now visible: first from the albums to the apps, and now to the concept, content, and creation of his new store.
So, in conclusion, all I ask — and what I believe many others would quietly agree with — is that we approach this with fairness, clarity, and a willingness to reassess the way things have unfolded. This is not about blame. It’s about ensuring that Dream’s work, voice, and integrity are represented accurately, and that the community built around his creations is also given the space to engage with that truth. Transparency matters. Representation matters. And above all, respect matters — for the creator, for the content, and for the people still here trying to make sense of it all.
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Totally. Some even not so quietly…
I must say that it’s true that people don’t know where to find things or where to search. The forum should make these two aspects clear… especially if you’re not subscribed. Because then you won’t even know that you can subscribe, more than anything. Apart from the small notice at the top… “SapienMed/Enlightened States is now member-supported! To post, send DMs, and access all forum content (NFT sales, new articles, etc.), subscribe to ES Patreon”. These things need to be made crystal clear everywhere. Because people often ignore what’s written at the beginning… I don’t know why… but it happens. They go straight to search or to sections that grab their attention. Just like you would if it were children looking for something. Or people who click on the X (almost without reading anything of what it says… And believe me, a lot of people do that) to close things and move on to what interests them.
I just returned to the forum a few days ago… and subscribed… and before the subscription… everything I could see was highly confusing. In fact, I asked myself all sorts of questions. The only comments visible had nothing to do with the current situation. In fact, just recently, I replied to another forum where someone was asking about the old morphic fields… because it’s not clear where to look for them or anything.
And well… I won’t comment on not making Dream’s situation clear… or the obvious change in attitude toward him… which is obvious, at least in my eyes.
That said… I think the Patreon is great and all the new updates are fantastic.
Hi Sarecha 
There is a header that probably no longer shows for you that says we are now subscriber-supported and gives info and how to contact the mods
The Newcomer thread has details about how to use the search function. A few people do tend to ask first before searching, but any questions can always be addressed to the mods. Believe me, people are not shy about DMing us with any questions. After so many years it has gotten a bit confusing and I spend time organizing as much as I can.
Yeah, I added something about the header in the other reply. I know there is a header… But just like they asked in another forum, even after coming here to see what was going on or where they could find the old fields… that’s why I’m saying it. And not everyone is going to use the ‘search’ or send you a private message. But you know that. That’s why it’s always good to have a topic that informs about the current situation.
Rose, this is not an attack on your organization. I’m saying that people who come here usually want to learn more about the morphic fields (which they can’t see in the new ones)… or because they want to find the old ones. I’m not attacking your organization. You’re very efficient in that area, from what I’ve always seen. I’m talking about the lack of clarification (at least, from the perspective of the person who isn’t subscribed yet).
Most people want all the information in one go… and that’s why I think a topic covering all the new information is necessary.
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By the way, looks like you (or whoever updates these thingies) forgot to update the link to the shiny new Gumroad! 
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To my knowledge I have. If you have new info, please DM me
I say this because I still get the link to sapienmedicine instead of theprimordial. It might just be me, or due to my location… or whoooooo knows. I’m referring to the “New Release” section on the homepage. But if you diiiiiiiiiiiid, well… I don’t get along well with technology… so it’s probably that
I see, you have been clicking on the old links from the About section. I have updated them, thanks
If you see old or broken links (or anything that needs updating), please DM Nice2knowU AND Rosechalice in the same DM and let us know.
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Just an idea/suggestion 
Reviews are really helpful to read when deciding what field/fields to buy next, but there are not so many people that write them.
So if possible, to encourage more people to write reviews, maybe each review you write you could get a 5 or 10 % discount for your next purchase, and to motivate people to write more than one review (because I think many people buy more than one field per time) perhaps you could add let’s say 3 reviews × 5% and get one 15% coupon (max amount). Not sure if there is one time use coupons, but that would be good.
And to qualify, one would have to post a review on both gumroad and the forum, using the same forum name on gumroad so it’s easier to verify. And the review would have to be put some effort into, not just “good field 
”.
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It’s a nice idea, just not something we can implement.
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I wrote something there! Thought I’d add it here too.
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