The purest way to experience concepts as far as I’m aware is to simply feel/know them directly.
I mean, sure, mathematics works well within the context it’s meant to be used, but like any language, it distorts the concepts it represents and won’t have the resolution to represent more exotic concepts.
At least this is my understanding.
in other words, spiritual mansplaining.
It’s studies concepts regardless whether they can be perceived or not. In a sense mathematics is the purest way to express concepts possible.
In the sense that it cannot be applied outside maya.
It is a borrowing from a higher order of thinking to fill in a gap inherit to the function of mathematics.
Who in their right mind would try to explain “nothing”.
It is an experience.
physicists
Arguably one cannot experience nothing while human, expressing it is done easily in math. It’s useful, albeit not physical.
The end of the individual is neurosis. Sooner or later, it will all fall apart if they dig deep enough.
Well, you’re here, you have arcturian intercessions and aliens, why not ask their opinion on the matter, lol.
? Still a human brain, human returns to human.
And any means of communication will involve “language”, what its atoms and rules are isn’t necessarily same as our written text. Yet it will be language as it’s communication.
it’s still useful though, people are allowed to have MRI machines for diagnosis, all sorts of technologies that can be used to improve quality of life.
Well, that’s a whole rabbit hole in of itself … about our history and whether we are truly better off than our ancestors.
I read the modern consensus. But, more and more things are proving that most of the time, it’s ego-stroking tosh.
Like the whole clovis first conundrum.
I ultimately think it doesn’t matter.
It’s too complex to intellectualize from my view point. Either completely involved motion, or absolute stillness can serve as glimpses into that state of “being?”. However, as an individual, an identity, I can’t describe it. Because it is not truly you or me.
Our egos will beg the question of whether there is any value in it if we cannot “personally” approach it.
And I think that’s the whole point, it creates us unlike itself to better understand what it is “not”, not necessarily what it “is”.
But then again, who really knows. As egos, we are attached to “control”, and “understanding” is a form of it.
A conversation cannot occur without egos stepping in, because a conversation presumes separateness.
In our “human” state of being, we can only “approach” infinity.
I don’t think it’s something that can be “taught”. You can plant a seed from that space, but it’s ultimately up to the individual to decide if they truly want to align with something “more”.
They can use images, or give you an experience, or give you a direct understanding.
They are not bound by language, we are, in our fallen human state of being.
If they ever respond with “words”, it’s because this is how “we” understand things.
Images are “words”, just a different language. Experience too, it’s neural signals. Infinity might not be possible to feel, but sure easy to describe, just writing “infinity” does it.
Be really ambitious with the intercession fields.
You’re confusing words with communication.
Communication is a function of consciousness.
Consciousness is not a word in its actual function. We describe it using that word … to conceptualize it.
Consciousness is why you are not collapsing unto yourself although 99.9% of you is empty space.
? Communication is done through means of communication, we don’t need to name our language a “language”, yet it will be one. Anything perceived is done through ways that are interpreted somehow by any apparatus one that perceives has, it can be anything or nothing, but it doesn’t make it different from getting information, which is done through some representation which is “language”.
When a black hole gobbles up a whole galaxy, that’s also communication.
I thought you wanted to understand the thing about math, I’m not sure where we’re going with this. If “words” are not enough, then ask them to directly, vicerally, show you.
sometimes it requires an event or another person. an accident. a death. a birth.
by asking the right question to someone, you may light some issue or create some gaps for reflexion.
intellectual understanding is useful if applied correctly. it’s not all mental masturbation.
for example, sadghuru and many other gurus use their intellect to promote and expand on their ego trip rather than as a way to de-identify themselves and others.
they always want to portray themselves as masters who know everything upon slaves who don’t know shit.
unknowing is useful for de-identification of one knows what are the implications of it or how to apply it to others.