Let's talk about NFTs & set some ground rules

I actually didn’t wish to prolong fiasco surrounding it.
But when some people make accusations without understanding, it becomes an obligation to give more clarity.

https://forum.enlightenedstates.com/t/passive-income-project-minumum-effort-maximum-money/26172/1079?u=raj

I’m just pasting what is written in that thread:
Kindly imbibe the intent, don’t skim through like many did in the group.

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Now it’s time to get counts for NFT.

I believe equity is just than equality.

Those who put more effort should only be allowed to get more copies.
Only @KetherTour , @Jonathan , @shadowhunter176 should get more than one copy.
I’m not undermining others participation but highlighting greater efforts put in by these three people when compared to the rest.

If anyone of you feel that you deserve more than one copy, then present your point here.
It will not be evaluated based on number of other persons who support you but by your merit of participation and contribution.

so, max limit is fixed at one for rest of the people, unless one feels that they deserve more. Present your case. You will not be judged by me., but by your own conscience.

I have seen in other groups people sharing purchase links and deserving people missing out their copies. No one can teach honesty, integrity and being just. I’m aware of loopholes, practical difficulties in my plan. I feel I gotta do justice for those who had big role in this NFT creation.

If someone feels this as stupid / unjust/ autocratic decision , you are most welcome to throw stones at me. But that will not make me change my plan .

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So my explanation for the above,

First thing first, it was an act of appreciation for hardwork, time, effort put in by those people who worked on the script.

It was not an act to undermine others.

  1. nowhere we limited to one. It was a base, We just asked the say why you deserve if you plan to buy more.

It was done with an intention that, if you buy more copies, let others people also be okay with it. So you have opportunity to explain yourself and others to appreciate your effort.

Some people hardly put in much ideas, but when it comes to copies, they buy in bulk ( now I feel, I shouldn’t have really bothered and be too moralistic)

I clearly mentioned that I’m not going to decide how many copies you get. Iam not so dumb to do something that I have no power.

I clearly mentioned that I’m aware of practical difficulties. It was a plan. An idea. Not a decree.

And when some people in my project asked me act like a leader, I politely told them , that I’m a facilitator than a leader.

@Vesparda was right, this idea was introduced at the last moment. Because there was no need to do something like this at beforehand.
Necessity is the mother of invention.

Only at the very end, after seeing what was happening in other projects, I came up with such a proposal.

@Vesparda , how would you feel, if you were been so enthusiastic throughout the project creation, gave active participation, but at the moment of purchase, you miss out because of someone not part of project getting access to purchase link and buy. ? No one put a limit for copies in that project. You could have said 100 , and purchased all. But yet, sneak buy and deny opportunity for the unlucky one.

This plan was not out of anxiety seeping in from other project, but out of compassion and that no one deserving should miss out their copy.

Some people just don’t try to understand the intention behind it.

They act like naughty school kids who also brings parent to support their erring.
Sammy is yet to become a superhuman / omnipresent being.
So most things can be sorted out within community.
Even if you bring him at bursting moments, he would be forced to give opinions before grasping the entire situation.

I believe, ours is the first community project to have two threads, just because we couldn’t add more than 30 people in a group.
Invitation was open throughout. We never said we are done with people.

With two threads, People who did compilation of script had to do double work. It is a new experience bound with opportunities to learn by mistakes made.

My kind request to all if you are planning to be part of project or start one:

  1. Participate.
    It a community project.
    It doesn’t matter how much ideas you put, just your likes and heart :heart: would boost our team spirit.

  2. As @SammyG said, quality participation should be recognised. So not judge by how many replies they made in thread. One idea could elavate the project to whole new level.

  3. Don’t look for opportunity to criticise people who put effort to script. Compiling ideas is a time consuming task. Everyone have life outside forum. So appreciate if not atleast give constructive suggestions but not be looking whom to blame.

  4. For group leaders, there will be some people who will be inactive for few days, but when they come back, they read all posts , give suggestions. So wait for people to find time to contribute.

  5. Also, there will be some just for NFT, have a namesake participation. Personally, I tend to ignore , but also appreciate because they don’t fall in next category people

  6. The next category people: there will be some to play spoilsport. After all, we are part of this world, so can expect all dramas to unfold.

The whole issue was blown out of proportion. Just not worth it.

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Also, kind request. I have given enough explanation from my part. I don’t wish to drag this further.
Let’s move ahead with a positive spirit.

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What was it? You can pm

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Hi raj,just letting you know this link is private!

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I don’t know what you mean by that.
I guess All part and parcel of the issue. :joy: it Will all be a sweet reminiscence soon. Made so many good friends after that issue. All for good.
I should have given my energy and time to the majority who vibed with me rather than with those who I had issue.
It’s a lovely place to have friends of your vibe. I will always treasure it.

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He pasted contents of that post, right below the link.

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Someone part of that forum please post the message. Im still trying to figure out how to do coping from another topic. :joy::sweat_smile:

Anyway, whatever you should know is already here.
Show is over. :joy:

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There will always be someone who says 5 copies and buy 6. That’s the issue.

I personally have no issues with how much one buy. As long as you deserve.

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And some people just buy to sell it very next day, like stock market.
I’m like, why don’t you enjoy the benefits of the field. It is such a beautiful creation.
Why throw it away just like that for some cheap price.

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So sorry, but is this thread created for bringing justice for these three individuals? Are you their representative? Why you insist on talking about something which has happened in the past? This is a public thread. It is obvious that like a new business, the NFT projects need some rules. The rules that could have been existed from the beginning.

@SammyG Did you create this thread as playground of that special group?! Or you have blocked their private group? When can we witness an end to that love story?

When you plan to put out fire at one place, it Starts to burn more at other.
I thought people should know what the issue is about, for newbies who aren’t part of the group but still give an opinion based on limited knowledge.

I’m not looking for justice for anyone anymore :joy: enough with it.

It all makes me wonder how different mind can interpret a simple explanation

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I think each group should establish rules for itself. Every group is like its own country and they are free to do what suits them, regarding their own NFT project.

If its a group of people that know each other for a long time and trust each other, they are free to go directly to brainstorming and skip the ground rules.

They might disagree on some things, and for that there is voting, majority wins. I myself started polls hoping to see things go way I want them to, just to see majority wanting something else. U accept that and adapt, think along the lines majority voted for, and try to improve the concept.

So in the end I think it is fine if Sam is added to each NFT group, I am certain he will only interact with users there if necessary. As for groups that are big like Passive Income project, leader can introduce rules at the start, or a poll and those that disagree can just leave, so no harm is done.

Only issue remaining, someone can agree to all rules and then share the link so 3rd party can buy, without no one knowing about it, until it happens. This can be solved by teespring introducing a system where each person that clicks on the link, firsty types in their forum nick and pass(some form of verificatiion) and then buys his/her NFT. System would track how many copies each logged in user bought.

I am aware Captain might not be in position to request this of Teespring, but for every exploit of Digital system, better secutrity is better solution. Again, I think it would be better if we found some other way. This is our issue and not Captain`s at the end of the day.

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Sooner the better. We all have other creations to put in our energy.

U could rephrase this whole paragraph, I am chill most of the time, but the way u wrote this, I felt my ego trigged. This is sensitive manner, so it is important to write in consideration to not hurt feelings of others. Man made a thread as playground for us to discuss in civil manner, and to see our opinions, instead of introducing rules and saying fuck all who dont agree.
Edit:Also the way u wrote it, could imply u hold him accountable for the direction this thread was/is taking, and that isnt his responsibility. Him and Dream are doing this on their own free will. Teacher is oblidged to take care of the class, these 2 are only oblidged to live their lives as they see fit.

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and you didn’t think that Sammy’s messages were clear enough? What is the topic?

Let’s talk about NFTs & set some ground rules

It all makes me wonder how different mind can interpret a simple explanation

Count how many times the members of your group tried to discuss about that incident here from their own point of view.

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:clap::clap:
I was too tired to tame another issue. Thanks a lot :pray:

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You people talk as if the whole issue was born out of it , but yet, we should keep mum.

No… I did not create this thread because of that one issue. There have been multiple NFT dramas that I’ve had to deal with. And others that I would witness without being a part of a group because as I said… even though I’m not a part of certain groups, if I dig in, I can still see all of it. And I saw that some things weren’t being handled too fairly.

So I’m actually dissapointed that people are making this about them. It’s not about any individuals. It’s about the whole system in general. So stop bringing those personal issues to the public. That’s not what this thread is about.

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It is because non-members of the group talk so much and have so much opinion, it became an obligation.
I now feel members in my group were far more understanding and had good intentions to settle it.

To be frank, we are more tired to talk about it.
When we feel we are done, next trigger comes.
Wish sammy closes this thread if it has served its purpose.

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Thread was meant to offer people space to discuss and set rules how they see fit.

@Raj mentioned situation that is relevant in some way to this, cuz it included suggestion that few members should get more ecopies than others. He suggested this as a leader and no one disliked the idea. Well no one said anything, but the whole group functions rly well, so no one felt the need to start the poll to vote if few users should get “special treatment”.

So it makes sense he mentioned this.

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