I literally am Greek and Turkey talks about doing war with us?
What is happening today? Did the curse/spell removal audio started kicking in harder?
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All things are opposite 
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@NotUsing1 not here please, venting thread. I will send a nude photo of mine if you all start talking again
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I skimmed through the comments, i have been told not to comment on the issues by somone i respect, But may i just say, that if u was going to pick one comment to say i was being âagainst transâ then that was the comment, as i was giving random thoughts.
no there is no comment, you donât all understand I will delete the thread and send a nude? I am a really hairy guy you donât wanna see this. For real.
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Do u have a bear belly?
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Yeah sure, I donât got abs but I got hair
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I aready got them
@IAmJonathan aready sent them too me
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wellâŚ
this is saint biceps real life then (thatâs the reason he went vegetarian too 
)
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No no, since he became a patron too he got the beer body
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The bird is delicious!
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what bird?
Itâs not a bird, itâs a plane 
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nah itâs just a dream
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https://forum.enlightenedstates.com/t/new-release-the-dreamtime/10706?u=patronsaintbiceps
So itâs life itself
Well, just saying, if you are trying to convince people of anything by first calling them ignorant and telling them to read books, youâre already gonna throw these people off immediately and theyâre not gonna listen to you.
Just like Iâm compassionate for trans people, I gotta be compassionate for âignoranceâ because people really only know what they know. Our subconscious minds automatically close our minds to information that doesnât allign with our beliefs. Beliefs perpetuated by our environment and the people we grew up around. Itâs like not even fully our fault most of the time. Itâs just human nature.
Just like some people are close minded to trans people, you seem close minded to the way some people think in this forum. Theyâre less progressive thoughts tend to trigger you. I can see that you are passionate and you deeply care about these things. That is very noble of you and I genuinely admire that.
The only thing about that is that this sort of passion will often lead you down a path of being combative. Of always being at conflict with the world.
Cause people are always going to disagree with you no matter what. Even if you have all the proof in the world. You canât just change someones thinking over a conversation. And part of you knows that but perhaps wants to attack their point of view to ensure they know the âreal facts.â
It typically doesnât work and only invites more stress/conflict into your life.
Does that mean you shouldnât share your thoughts? Of course you should. But I personally think a more welcomed approach is just sharing our thoughts without belittling other peoples lack of knowledge on something.
If you want to be listened to, you got to be open and compassionate of the way other people think even if it completely contradicts your way of thinking. Otherwise, they arenât going to listen to you because your thoughts also completely contradict theirs and youâre invalidating their thoughts/feelings up front.
I know that sounds illogical but I have witnessed hundreds of arguments, probably thousands at this point and when people just tell others theyâre wrong and they need to educate themselves⌠it never ends well at all. Never once did someone go âokay, Iâll go read this book then.â
Imagine someone telling you that you arenât really educated on the topic and you need to read Jordan Petersonâs book âTransexuals Are Delusionalâ that has a lot of scientific proof on why they are. Would you read the book? No. Well, theyâre getting that same treatment from their perspective. (That book doesnât exist btw lol)
All we can really do is share our perspective and if people open up to it, cool. If not, then cool. Not gonna lose my peace over where someone is currently at in their personal journey.
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Ah, gonna add that to my wishlist then
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I ordered 10 to give my family. Education style! 
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As for what you wrote, for sure. Thereâs plenty of examples of transexuals and homosexuals throughout human history. Human sexuality was also much more fluid and open in many cultures throughout the world. India was a very sexual country with quite a nice balance in that regard. Obviously, thereâs caveats to it like being completely driven by lust or whole cities raining stds.
Regardless, the Abrahamic Religions went to the other side of the extreme and completely wiped out humanitys freedom of expression. In some ways, it mgiht have been necessary as we were very undisciplined creatures merely driven by instinct. But it was too extreme and we were internally repressed by the limiting belief of our sexuality being evil. Whether it be our attraction to same sex or desire to be more feminine/masculine or just enjoy sex. The rules were so rigid thst they almost broke us.
And now we are here⌠trying to find a moddle ground. Itâs chaotic at the moment. A lot of culture clashes but I think weâll eventually get to a place of global acceptance. When genetic engineering takes afoot, it really isnât going to matter what you believe as people will choose their gender, how they look and a whole bunch of other things.
The question for most people I think is⌠exposure to children. Many peoplr think thst if kids are exposed to transexuals, then that will normalize it to them and make them want to be transexual. I donât know the answer to that as Iâm not a father. I do remember being a kid though⌠and seeing transexuals or gay people growing up had no influence on me. They were just people with different preferences to me. But thatâs just me. I do think people are who they are. If a gay person influenced them to be gay, itâs more than likely they were already gay and seeing that person made them realize it.
Regardless, I think its more a matter of edcuating your child on thst matter. Now, I will say that I certainly donât agree with doing gender transformation surgeries on children. Kids are still young and donât even know who they are. If they havenât hit puberty yet, they definitely arenât even in tune with their sexuality yet to make such a huge decision. Iâve seen videos of people who regret getting those surgeries and that is just sad to me. You gotta be completely sure if you want to do that and a kid does not have that kind of clarity.
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