Which is why Vahalla Vial will be such a great boost for Social Bonder.
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Hmm? This is just definition difference then, because I donât refer to intelligence as something measured by âIntelligence Quotientâ, its utility outside of academic application is extremely dubious.
Broadly intelligence IS more than taking optimal decisions and actions even, âsmartnessâ is more of a colloquial, âfolkâ language.
The IQ notion how itâs perceived outside of science is a PR disaster to be honest.
Not counting the fact that I never took any proper IQ test and hopefully their popularity will go down.
You wanna then use the term âGeneral Intelligenceâ, alias g-factor, thatâs very different.
And well, if u have other realizable way of measuring it, standardizing it, with reasonable sets of correlations, then Iâm open to hear it. IQ still stays one of the best psychological measurable tools of assessing the traits. It still gives us lots of correlations even way beyond academia.
If I remember it right, you cannot join US army if your IQ is 83 or lower. Under certain IQ, you are not trusted with a gun. I donât think an army like that doesnât know what they are doing.
I often encounter people saying shit about intelligence and IQ, but never saw any real practical solutions.
Itâs pretty fundamentally divisive. If someone tells u that u got this number and that puts your potential to certain limits. (as to a population that doesnât use fields and ordinary people usually canât change it) You got X number, the Adam got Y number that is significantly higher. Then Adam feels very good about himself and you will feel like âof less worthâ, therefore many people donât wanna be assessed like that.
So all in all, it just is what it is.
No solution at all really, it shouldnât have been used in a goal-setting context, that simple, efficient businesses donât use it, so thatâs quite telling.
In academia IQ score however obtained would mean nothing for university application, career, studying, research, etc.
Army and gun laws, these are governed by political will, not to make them actually efficient at improving peopleâs lives.
Honestly even hearing people operating notions of intelligence measures and quotients outside of human intelligence studying is incomprehensible for me.
This is more of a General Discussion conversation.
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Then they can be moved there afterwards.
But would rather propose IQ, Intelligence and Smartness Discussion thread for maybe brain guild section.
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Thatâs a good idea.
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Thatâs what I think fundamentally matters. Itâs even easy to say that Quantum Physics and Einsteinâs relativity are ânot goodâ, bcs they donât paint the whole picture. Yet they are important and the level of approximation is very beneficial for the society.
So you are discarding the IQ idea just bcs it doesnât mean everything? Itâs a rather narrow set of traits, but given how narrow it is, itâs still impressively useful. Of course it wonât predict where you will sleep in 10 years, but itâs something nonetheless.
And depends in which country you are. In mine, there are universities that will accept the Mensaâs IQ result to let you in instead of the entry exams. And nah, I donât think that they donât know what they are doing.
And well, try studying Physics with an IQ of 85.
So army all just bad? Believe or not, US army is still the best in the world, USA is still the worldâs superpower. I am not saying they are perfect, but thatâs how it is. And you donât come on top by being just stupid and corrupted.
Iâm sure itâd be practical to have a better measurement tool if it meant that there could be many ppl with IQ <83 that can be reliably trusted with a gun. You would potentially get a bigger army, especially when needed.
I understand. Thatâs your position. Based on what I have been studying, I have developed a different one. I donât judge people based on their IQ results, but I see the connections and correlations in every day life.
Yes, I donât see a point in such discussion, IQ isnât remotely useful metric from my perspective, I have come from background where even raising point of IQ outside of curiosity context is frowned upon.
Well, the part thatâs measured by IQs at least.
Whatâs wrong with that ?
Whatâs the point of measuring it if it doesnât matter ?
Letâs link standard IQ test first, also it was invented as research tool, not to draw decisions based on IQ.
I never said it wouldnât matter. My whole point is that it matters.
I meant, I wonât take your IQ certificate and then for myself, determine what kind of person you are.
But if u give me 10 different trait results, I may at least try to make a picture.
That exactly what I talk about, draw a picture for what purpose? In a job application it should be done based on once credentials, past experiences, interview, etc.
Same in other contexts with small tweaks, IQ certificate will have same next-to-zero weight in each for all real purposes.
For my own personal judgement, I think it was clear from the part of where I wrote it.
I already told u, itâs not everything, but itâs no nothing either. Not even close to nothing.
If you are talking about IQ differences on the level of statistical error, yes. But bigger differences generally no, that matters.
Lol, anyways:
You donât see a point, so then ig there is not a need to continue and bring whatever outside data here.
Sure, no problem, we end it here. As you donât see a point and Iâm guessing you wanna be consistent, so yeah. I already expressed my core points and I donât rly care to continue much further, so weâre on the same page here.
And @mods, please move this discussion to a better place for the sake of sanctity of this thread. I love this field and intend to focus and discuss on it.
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Yeah, Iâm moving it in a few minutes when Iâm on my laptop
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I would like to apologize for my overreaction.
Although I canât offer any suggestions on improving question/answering flow about intelligence testing.
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ive never walked out of a exam room happier than when i walked in. i literally dominated that exam and i barely studied, i sort of just looked passively at relevant info and then wrote it down while superhuman genius looped
loving brain field journey so far
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So, blurry vision really is a thing. A fixable thing, luckily, but it still surprised me because itâs still a challenge for me to be able to âfeelâ the fields. Well, the rewards are too great to not push through. PBoY here I come.
is this a side effect of the new booster?