brilliant
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That would be very helpful. That’s like a lottery in itself.
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i played this for about 3 loops and went to bed.
i’m awake now and feel productive. i came across websites that are valuable resources to ideas i have.
while looking at a website i realized i was thinking with an employee mindset when i should be switching to an entrepreneur mindset.
i made a connection to the free book i found and this website that could help provide my life with more abundance and financial confidence.
sometimes i get impatient and wish i was already at the ‘finish line’ when what is important is to be in the moment and accept where i’m at.
i’ve been feeling like this rabbit from alice in wonderland.
if i keep thinking about the ‘finish line’, i’ll never get there as the goal post in my mind stays out of my reach even though i’m physically moving towards it. the key for me is to have my mind in the present moment instead of the finish line.
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Until Enlightenment (lol we keep having this convo) that’s not happening.
What you CAN DO instead to manage the “Ego” is…
Take a time each week (make it a “ritual”) to stop and see how you’ve progressed and FEEL GRATITUDE for where you’re at now compared to before.
The Ego will forever keep it’s goal on the horizon which has it’s “good” and “bad” effects.
Looking back with gratitude and self-reflection balances out that polarity.
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I so hear you. One of my daily challenges but getting better. I’m also letting go of perfectionism and there is enormous freedom in that…on my good days ;)
Respectfully, I disagree. While perhaps being in the present 100% of the time can only happen when enlightened, it’s entirely possible to be more mindful, more aware and to work towards being more in the present. I would venture that it might be something that helps be further along for those who seek enlightenment.
When I am diligent, I have found myself much more immersed in the present and less enticed by goalposts. To me it is a worthy daily practice that makes me happier and more at peace 
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I feel like if you read me too literally, all of my comments are going to cause “disagreements” for you.
I was indeed speaking of “being in the moment”… even just more than 50% of the time, let alone all the time.
Sorry, but that’s not how the brain/ego works. It’s primary function is to seek goals whether that be basic survival or on up the various chains of hierarchy mapped by many many people in many ways.
It’s the archetypical “seeker”/Hermit tarot that once a goal is accomplished, constantly seeks for a new one. It’s what causes to people to evolve (good) or obsess/worry (bad)
(I hinted at this all above)
Everyone can maintain moments even “minutes” of being in the moment.
We even have fields that can extend that “flow” for hours/days.
So i’ll repeat. The only way to be 100% present all the time, effortlessly is to reach Enlightenment.
(I suggest reading my many posts on what “my” definition of Enlightenment is and what it entails so “we” can stop disagreeing)
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Lastly, you also have to understand this is an ongoing conversation between me and psynergy. I’m not in the habit of reposting an entire books worth of “background” knowledge to explain a point we’ve already gone over now for a year.
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@Amber3 A part of curiousity is always genuine understanding, Amber. :)
The more you read and absorb, the more you will also understand the approach of people like Om better :)
Specially Om lol. 
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Of course I read you literally for the time being, I don’t know you 
If you say that until Enlightenment that’s not happening in quite definitive terms, I take you at your word 
That’s quite a black and white statement. We have just discussed earlier today and I didn’t have a disagreement with you. Or maybe I’m taking you too literally? I’m just jesting, couldn’t help it hahahahha
But seriously, I quite like not agreeing. I think it can bring really interesting and stimulating and a great way to learn 
As I can’t possibly know that, if you can make allowances for someone new, that’s not what I’m asking you to do
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I am hoping to do that by getting to know you all. I have read quite a lot of the forum but I would hope that the best way to do that is in the now 
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a way for the now to happen 
and learning always comes with seeing through, not agreeing, but seeing through… not keeping the stimulation on :)
I do understand you btw, just connecting one of the dots for you :)
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By read and absorb, you mean not interacting and rather seeing how the conversations go for a while until I am getting to understand people more? Please correct me if I am misunderstanding
And for me, I find that tiresome.
So you’ll excuse me if I don’t engage with you too often if that’s your “preferred” style of engaging with others.
There are many others here looking to learn and grow who engage in other “styles” that I can assist more readily.
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Of course not haha but actually understanding where the thing is, researching some contexts, older information shared on here… and connecting everything… Jumping to satisfy the stimulation can make the learning part comes second to your mind. (If at all)
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I don’t know how you leaped to that from what I have written (or how I have engaged so far in the forum). It is absolutely not my preferred way. I simply can appreciate and learn from it, which is entirely different. I think not agreeing is simply having different points of view and discussing them. It doesn’t have to be negative.
But I completely respect what you put forward and will refrain from engaging you in the future
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So for instance, in such a conversation as this, where I saw something that I thought was interesting and felt like further discussing, what would you rather suggest I would have done? What comes to mind is perhaps look for key words like enlightenment and seek posts from OM and psyenergy where they have that discussion, or look for discussions on the subject to see what are the opinions here?
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Actually you know what, I realise that I am derailing the thread and I apologise for that. If you feel like it send me a PM with more info and I’ll gladly read it
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Yes, it is an enticing thing to be looking for stimulation. Stimulation is one way where constant creativity comes from … just like your ways of solving this out!
Use it to your advantage
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Not to be self-referential, but Mao, Dream, and I have had these conversations to the max in other areas of our lives in the past.
Fun for a “Philosophy Debate Class 101” but as time goes on many people get tired of “debating” and just want to find something that works so they can improve their lives as quickly or slowly as they choose.
I think most people, in general, are in this latter category.
You seem like a bright, articulate woman, so I’m sure you’ve seen this in your own life as well.
This shouldn’t be “shocking” or “news” to you.
or how people react to your style of questioning.
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Yes this conversation has made me realise that you guys have had these conversations many times indeed, you are just further confirming that I don’t really have people in my life that are interested in these things so I was hoping to do that here but you guys aren’t there anymore and that’s quite ok I’m sure the right people will come along when it’s time.
Thank you for this exchange!
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I never considered getting this one until my higher self nudged me to, and even though I knew my relationship with money wasn’t good, I didn’t expect powerlessness and fear to come up during my first listen. Interesting, cause no one reported such feelings yet. I always had resistance to actually take things into my own hands when it comes to finances, though I wasn’t aware how deep it ran apparently, so this will be a much needed aid 
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