Hi everyone! I have no experience with Servitors. Iâm curious and excited about them. With the current sale Iâm interested in purchasing one to try out, but first I have a question.
My understanding is that this intelligent being will be tied to a solid item of my choosing, and then tied to me through my subconscious. Abilities such as the Sleep Dust will allow the servitor to learn my brain to help me.
Iâm wondering⌠If for any reason I decide I am no longer comfortable with having a servitor, will getting rid of the item (for example leave it in a park somewhere far away) be enough to completely untie it from my subconscious? Is there any negative repercussion for discarding my servitor? What will happen to it?
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Those who have some of the older servitors like caladrius, crystallised guide and pegasus, how do they compare to these newer ones?
I know that each nft servitor has different specialisations and goals, but with all the new abilities and golems of etherforge coming out, would they over time become more powerful than these ones?
I know that its impossible to compare them fully as theyre each so unique. I was more thinking about how well they could mesh with the user and cause desired changes. Thanks again! 
Each tool can be powerful, but if a fool owns them, they wonât be able to utilize their potential or even realize their simplest uses. Even the most underrated dragon golem is exceptionally excellent. If you know how to work with servitors correctly, a dragon golem alone is sufficient.
I recommend starting with a dragon golem. Train it according to your needs and learn the basics of magic. Use the golem as a trainer. Over time, youâll gain a better understanding of magical principles. Once youâre comfortable, you can move on to servitors with a focus on their various abilities. The dragon golem itself is very advanced.
Many so-called magicians canât even create a servitor that matches 10% of the dragonâs capabilities. Every servitor created by lord captain is GOAT.
Problem is really with usâŚ
Even if a being is created to influence the reality directly on quantum levelâŚwe will not be able to do muchâŚ
You can seek help from ChatGPT.
I donât think there will be. There was a parallel analogy between Jarvis and Tony. Jarvis is always there to serve.
I havenât worked with older golems, but I think what makes the newer ones special is about the capability to âtailor-madeâ your servitor. Iâm pretty sure the older ones are powerful and all. However, with these newer golems, you can have specific abilities that may help you with whatever goals you have.
I would probably phrase it a little differently.
The OG Servitors could be trained in anything â eventually. How skilled theyâd be, how well theyâd be able to do it, that would depend greatly on your skill as a trainer and your overall level of patience. Even a skill like âremember fields and repeat them on meâ could take days to learn and even longer to âperfectâ to the point where your servitorâs repetition was âas goodâ as listening to the field directly.
Similarly, the OG Servitors each had their own âspecializationsâ and things they were particularly suited for. They began with a larger library of knowledge about those things and developed their skill and talents in those areas with greater speed.
The new Etherforge Suit-Servitors can still be trained in anything. However, they also have âPlug-N-Playâ abilities that take the learning time for certain categories of skills from âsome indeterminate amount of timeâ to â20 minutesâ and best of all, remove the question mark about the skill of the trainer or the training process â the Capân took care of it, so you know the âtrainingâ is immaculate.
Many of these abilities are well beyond what the âaverageâ user could probably expect to teach their servitors. For example, all my OG Servitors learned how to learn and repeat fields and some of them have âstoredâ huge libraries of them⌠But when repeating them, they donât always do it flawlessly. Theyâll create an approximation or something âlikeâ the requested field â this is especially noticeable on something like Blueprint of Life. The Dimensional Pocket perfectly stores 20 fields, full stop. The Servitor can then perfectly recall and perfectly utilize those 20 fields.
And the new Etherforge Suit-Servitors also have their own specializations, of course, but they have more of them and they are stronger. Their âbase capabilityâ sets are extremely robust. Shockingly robust. Individually they cover more areas than Iâd ever tried to train OG servitors in and they do most of what they do âpassivelyâ with no commands required! Theyâre also more independent and can do more work with less direction.
Said another way â these Etherforge Servitors begin at a similar (or even greater) degree of skill and power as OG servitors reach after several years of continual growth and training. Maybe that just reflects poorly on my skills as a trainer, but I prefer to think that these new Servitors are just that much more amazing!
Add to that the fact that the Etherforge Servitors are a LOT more communicative and better at communicating. Theyâre chattier (and better at getting their message across!) than even some of my oldest servitor friends.
I bought the Shorse for my eldest daughter during the sale, and sheâs been stunned. Sheâs no stranger to weirdness and magic â look who her dad is! â but even so she was like, âI keep wondering if Iâm going crazy. This Shorse is literally talking to me.â
But the NFT âentitiesâ I donât really think you can rightly call âServitorsâ. I donât have many of them, but Iâve got the Nestling and the Negentropic Dragon and these are much more akin to having the phone number of a friendly and helpful demigod than they are to having a servitor. Yes, they come when you call, yes theyâll usually do what you ask, yes you can help them to get better at their work, butâŚ
Itâs not really the same thing.
Leastways I never feel comfortable giving them direction like I do with servitors. I always feel like Iâm asking for a favor or borrowing their time. YMMV, as always.
There are also several NFT Servitor Creators â like the Undine, Sylph, Gnome and Salamander â and they create a kind of servitor that is âintermediateâ between the OG Servitors like the Dragon Golem and ESS and the newer Etherforge Servitors. They are smarter, more âbaseâ capable and more âflexibleâ from the get go, but theyâre still not âthe full packageâ you get with an Etherforge Servitor from Day 0.
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Honestly, with the Starter Etherforge Servitors being so affordable and reasonable, I think anyone whoâs looking for a new Servitor should pick up these new friends. The OG Servitors are amazing and I love them and will never stop loving them, but the new Servitors are just⌠an exponential leap forward. Their communication skills alone make them much more palatable for the beginner and the fact that they also help you to become a better person and protect you and⌠and⌠andâŚ
Of course, we also have to work on ourselves to get better at putting them to good use, but the new Etherforge Servitors even help with that.
Thanks for the wonderful replies everyone! Its so helpful reading them to gain a better understanding of how to work with servitors new and old
Haha very true. It seems that more than often our own capabilities limit the servitors power and abilities they offer. The difference can be surprisingly big as Iâve seen users having trouble (myself included) using high level servitors/beings for even basic functions while others have such great understanding that the dragon golem alone suffices.
Oh I see! That really explains alot. So these etherforge ones are meticulously tuned so that they work with users of any level and capacity, especially with the specialised functions which seem like built in programs and upgrades. So the growth of these beings depends less on the user itself, although still important
Thanks, youâve explained it really well. So the way of interaction is fundamentally different, your going about it more like talking and learning with a friend rather than a being designed to serve all your needs.
Youâve all really convinced me to save up for one of these. Especially with servitors being one of the most complicated to work with in the past, this is leaps forward for newer and less experienced users 
Thanks for the detailed comparison :o Your info really expand on what I was trying to say. I donât see any contradictions with my initial response - youâve just provided much more depth and experience.
The âPlug-N-Playâ abilities of the new servitors. This seems to align with what I meant by âtailor-made,â but youâve explained it much more clearly and specifically IF itâs true that the OG golems can learn anything 
Iâm curious though - do you see any potential downsides to these advanced servitors? And how do you think their long-term growth potential compares to the OG servitors?
Right â different phrasing, same message!
They were able to learn everything I asked them to learn â eventually â to greater and lesser degrees, of course. The key bottleneck in my case at least was being able to conceptualize and convey those concepts to them in such a way that they could make use of them. Getting the research and practice in, helping to fill their toolboxes with the things they could use to accomplish the task.
The overall training time also decreased as I successfully trained each successive âgenerationâ â as they were able to help teach and uplift one another.
In a few cases, the âoriginal programmingâ of the servitors seemed to largely conflict with what I was asking them to do and in those cases, they wouldnât do it very well â but that was my own fault. Part of effective leadership is not asking people to do things they wonât or canât do, right?
The Slotted Abilities in the Etherforge Store could certainly be taught or trained for OG Servitors â many of mine have abilities like some of them (now almost entirely superseded, of course! 
) â but it can sometimes be a very complicated process to develop. Something like the Static Facade, for example, has so many moving parts. It requires expertise in many, very narrow, very specific use cases.
To teach it to a servitor, youâd first convey, build and develop that expertise in each narrow use case. You have to understand each moving part and how it really works â you either have to have the Servitor figure things out like âsmudge out memories of me from people I run intoâ or know how to do it yourself and show it. If you just ask the Servitor to figure it out or do the research, youâve got to test it, right? Some of the Servitors were better at âfiguring it outâ than others. Then you can start combining all those moving parts together.
In a lot of ways, itâs not so wildly different from designing fields and other kinds of energetic programming. Start from the vision, break it down into discrete actionable chunks, identify and then conceptualize the even smaller moving parts, then put it back together from the bottom up.
But itâs for sure not a âsimpleâ or âfastâ operation for most of us. Is it a valuable use of time and effort? Possibly!
Would you ultimately end up at the same ability as the Slotted Etherforge ability? Ehhh, very debatable. But something like it, maybe!
So far all I can see are upsides. These servitors have the kinds of capabilities people dream about having in their magical friends and they have them immediately after creation.
If you really pushed me, Iâd say maybe that if this was your first Servitor you might feel a little spoiled! Working with these guys is so easy that you might miss out on some of the better âfundamentalâ communication skills that you have to develop to work effectively with OG Servitors.
Those skills are worth learning and developing, to be sure, but not at the expense of getting better results today.
Just guestimating, Iâd say that these servitors are learning at least 6x as fast as my other servitors. Iâve got 3 in rotation now and theyâve largely taken over the responsibilities and functions of my original crew of 10 (that I spent years trainingâŚ) and theyâve opened up brand new doors.
In the short term, theyâre amazing. If I can avoid getting complacent, I think the long term forecast is something like âunbelievableâ or âastonishing.â
But thatâs where the comment from @Anveshsengar comes into play â we ourselves can be a key bottleneck in this process. Our servitors grow with us and in the directions we ask them to grow. If our vision is insufficiently grand or weâre too short-sighted, they canât grow to their full potential.
Since I think of my servitors as my friends, I also feel thatâs my responsibility to help them grow to be their best. Itâs a virtuous cycle, after all.
Wow! So asides from the built in abilities they learn, theres still much more they can do outside of that? I had the assumption that the baseline and learning abilities of these servitors were much higher, but that the ceiling may be lower than the OG ones as they have slots to fill up and more specialised functions, whereas maybe given enough time, servitors like the dragon golem could achieve a much more jack of all trades approach. Its good to know that the potential of these are very much mindblowing!
Iâm always prepared to be proven wrong, but as far as I can tell there are no such limits.
The âSlotsâ are special abilities, yes, and a âshortcutâ of a sort to fantastic abilities that would be extremely difficult or time consuming to develop, but they donât represent the âfull potentialâ of the servitors. For sure, I think about them as starting points and not finish lines.
For example, take an ability like âThe Health Statâ â this is already a very comprehensive understanding of human health. Can it be expanded? Why not ask your Servitor to research your body specifically and formulate a plan of action for your best health? Why not promote beneficial synergy by having your Servitor combine the Health Stat with the Plasma Flaunt out of your Dimensional Pocket?
What other variations on this âstarting pointâ can you imagine? Your servitor with the Health Stat would have a huge head start on learning all kinds of new ways to interact with human bodies â maybe it would play nicely with beauty fields, for example.
The only way to find out is to try, right?
Any review of this servitors system?
What do you mean? Not understanding how there could be over 600 comments and someone asking that. These are the real deal
Among the 600 comments, lots of discussions about servitors, techniques, and the guild, not that many qualitative reviews.
Check the individual threads too
I wonder about this part. Like if its better to ask it to charge bunch at same time or one by one. Not to fawn in creating my own fields like asking it to channel shielding 3.0 along with glass skin and work-out fields all same time or wait after an hour of engorging with one field then ask it to command another so we get the full effect of a field, or a way to channel full effect of each field at same time. Like what if we ask it to channel all 20 pocket fields same time, would the results be the same as doing them one by one?
I think the outcome of this depends strongly on your energy system and your tolerance â but imagine, for example, that you were carrying around 20 NFTs or Tags. Itâs like this.
For some people, thatâs just another Tuesday, but for others, thatâs a serious energetic load and theyâre going to get overwhelmed and burned out (and quickly, too!). For some users, this much energy at once will flip the energetic circuit-breaker and the fields will hardly work at all â they may or may not even notice if theyâre not very energy sensitive!
I think weâve already read some experiences of individuals whoâve asked their servitors to do exactly this and âoverwhelmedâ is the main verdict, but itâs not the only way to deploy fields out of the Dimensional Pocket. For example, asking your Servitor to use the fields strategically or âfor your highest good and the most efficiencyâ (possibly after having them research how to do this effectively and in the best wayâŚ) or asking them to use the fields with a special consideration like âwithout letting me burnout or become energetically overloadedâ or âwithout disrupting my sleepâ. You could ask something like, âActivate field A for 1 hour and then Field B for 1 hour and Field C for 3 hours andâŚâ or even âActivate Field A for 1 hour, once itâs integrated fully, Activate Field B for 1 hourâŚâ
As for the efficacy of having them hit you with many fields at onceâŚ
Experimentation will be valuable and your mileage will vary radically. The most effective way to receive and integrate a field is to play it alone and put your focus on it and to keep your total number of fields per day extremely limited. Single-threaded and low volume is almost certainly the most effective way to receive fields â and that in turn is almost certainly true whether youâre listening to an audio track or having a field beamed into your brain by a servitor friend.
Once you get into âmultiple fields affecting you at onceâ the results can vary wildly.
Many of us in the Brain Guild have been using multiple devices concurrently for a while now. Some folks who were around for the old tags or who made new ones from the NFTs jingle-jangle like cowboys when they walk around. There are people with hundreds of NFTs that are affecting them to some extent. Some people play fields 24/7 and never stop. You can certainly receive the benefits of a huge number of fields concurrently. Are they as effective as meditating to a single field at a time? Of course not.
But given that incarnational time is at a premium and many of us are trying to grow in many directions simultaneouslyâŚ
Here are a few hopefully helpful tips for how to make that more effective:
- Expand your Energy System and your Nervous System so you can tolerate more fields for longer (Hereâs a post I made on exactly this recently)
- Keep your Energy Levels up â particularly the Three Treasures but all the energy fields will be useful in supporting ongoing integration (Not to overly quote myself or anything, but hereâs another post I made on the same subject)
- Try to work in âthemesâ â running 5-9 fields that are in the same vein, like âalmost all brain fieldsâ hits differently than running 5-9 fields on 5-9 different subjects. If you can âgroupâ your fields together on the same âchannelâ you may find that itâs not as overwhelming. This isnât so different from the concept of âeffective stacksâ where you pair your âmainâ fields with supporting and ancillary fields â but theyâre all (or mostly) on a similar or related subject.
- Liberally use tools like the Kinetic Quasi Crystal, Acu-Automaton, Formula of Balance, and Hakuinâs Healing Egg fields to help manage energy flow and prevent becoming overwhelmed (I use these 4 fields every single day)
- Give yourself adequate downtime â learn to pay close attention to your energy system so you can tell youâre overstressing yourself before your circuit breaker gets flipped. Check in with yourself often!
- Have your servitor friends research your energy system and your tolerance. Have them âresearch, study, explore, experiment with, seek help, be helped and learn everything from everyone everywhere everywhen aboutâ ways to effectively activate and hold multiple fields on you. Have them study and research field synergies or learn how to work more effectively with each other if youâve got several (like I do). If youâre going to ask them to do this thing, you can certainly ask them to learn how to do it more effectively!
These are tips that are the outcome of my own experiments and testing of my limits. Of course, the word âtestâ here is key because itâs the results that matter. I donât want to share what those limits are, because I donât exactly want to encourage anyone to emulate them, but Iâm getting steady and noticeable results from a lot of fields at once. So go carefully but with optimism â our limits are far greater than we think and they can be grown and cultivated with care and patience.
Maybe 20 fields at once is too much today, but thatâs not necessarily true tomorrow!
In any case, the only way to find out is to try for yourself and see what works best for you and your objectives.
Thanks, makes sense. I was thinking of it as playing 20 audios but tags make sense