Musings about the Higher Self

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Here’s an article about the Higher Self written by Dreamweaver’s teacher, Dale Power:

How To Communicate With Your Higher Self

Here are a couple of threads containing previous discussions about the Higher Self:

• Ego voice vs Higher Self voice
• Higher self connection

Here’s a beautiful analogy @_OM has written about the Higher Self, perhaps something to provide one perspective to this discussion. It’s an analogy I’ve often used as well.

(Keep in mind these descriptions of the Higher Self are all merely words and analogies for an ineffable concept.)

@_OM

To expand on what Sapien said, I will say that I’ve had 2 experiences with these “primordial” beings. Both times, some aspect of my "higher self’ or “soul” emerged with an equally primordial feel saying (paraphrasing as this was all psychic with no words) that “I” was from the “previous” universe (and enlightened then) and they needed to back off.

Guess that was enough to scare them away both times.

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That said, (this should probably be in the Higher Self posts but I’ll leave it here) i feel alot of people viewing their Higher Self as “individualized”.
(Take this as MY understanding at this time only)
I would use the analogy of the Higher self – As “you” a million years from now.
And not just “you”.
“You” as the collective consciousness of humanity (or whatever star system you’ve chosen to identify with) a million(?) years from now.

Humanity has learned all of it’s “lessons” and has collectively shared all of its experiences with one another so that each “individual” in the collective has truly felt and KNOWS what each other has experienced.
All the dualities possible have been integrated.
Male/female,
master/slave,
rich/poor,
love/fear,
etc
And at this point, your “Higher Self” is on the last precipice of completely united in and identifying with the original Source field, fully realized.

ie. Deleting the game and starting a “new” one or not.

So now’s it’s just going back “in time” to fine tune some of those edges
(or speed up the process)
ie
“What was it like to be victimized?”
" What is it like to be the Abuser?"
“Have “I/we” completely balanced/transcended/integrated this polarity?”
“Let’s send a slew of souls ‘back’ to put the finishing touches on this duality”

This is nearly impossible to explain as we view time as “linear” but I think most people will get the gist of what I’m pointing out. ::sigh:: - words.

Edit: Here are a few more posts by @_OM related to the Higher Self.

@_OM

@anon44251429

I thought our HS command or take control over our subconsciousness and therefore has a power over us in every segment of our life

Well technically, I guess it could and does. But it doesn’t and it won’t unless there are very extenuating circumstances that are life/death or vitally detrimental to your soul’s well-being…
Otherwise, it’s pretty “hands off” unless you specifically ask for help which still most time comes across as just “intuition” and “psychic nudges”

What you’re describing to be honest, sounds like a possessing demon… that’s not how the HS works… at all.

@_OM

@anon28389016

We would have to determine what the higher self is first of all.

@anon44251429

Could we in some way have a power to convince our higher self into something what we want?

Regardless of all the mental “technicalities” over whether the Higher Self is individualized/collective etc,…
your HS, above all wants one’s happiness.

Again, view it as “you”, far in the future, (or outside the time stream), trying to lead you to your ideal, happiest destination.

That’s gonna take several lifetimes and hundreds of thousands of experiences but it’s already there, technically, in that “state”/place.

On top of that, it wants the “you” that’s believes it is “separate” to get “there” with “it” as fast as possible.
It truly only has one’s best interests at heart.

That said, it values Free Will above all, so if one truly wants to do something that it knows is bad for you, it will allow it.

And then, when your life falls to pieces and everything goes to shit, it will still be there, unjudging, giving you advice via intuition on how to get back on track to your “ideal, happiest” destination

@_OM

@anon28389016

When I play the crown chakra audio, I DO feel connected with everything around me.

So play the crown chakra audio for now instead.

@anon28389016

“wiser, more psychic side that operates based on our existing knowledge,

and its designed to keep you going so it will tell you whatever you need to hear at the time”.

Almost like it’s “in the future”/outside the time stream and already knows what can happen given all possible choices?
And it both values free will and wants to get “you” where “you” want to be as fast as possible?

lol again, same concepts, just using different words to express an ineffable concept.

@anon28389016

But srs, have you used that field? What do you think

I already have a very strong and open “connection” with my Higher Self, so that field doesn’t make me a good case study.

@_OM

@anon28389016

not the future collective evolved freak thing.

Sigh…when you take my analogies to literally.

Use whatever works for you. Period. If one calls it Inner Self, Higher Self, the Self, Over Soul, 5D Self, etc does it change what it IS or what it does?

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@_OM

@Starlight

@_OM Is the guidance from Intercession 2.0 similar to the Higher Self Connection guidance? I’m getting that one as I’d like a field that will help me with my decision making.

Sure I suppose it is. But you’d be getting the guidance straight from the horse’s mouth with HS. That could be a good thing or bad thing depending. Sometimes you want a slightly different perspective on an issue ie. non-HS guidance/help.

@_OM

@Roi

You mean we need to have strong connection and conceptual knowledge to discern the actual truth? You people didn’t had a contradicting opinion because you have all received the similar set of information? And more or less interpreted the information in the same way?

I’m not sure it has anything to do with “conceptual thinking”
(If it does, I have asked DW to work on a field that would resolve that)
I think it has more to do with having a better bullshit meter. ie the ability to spot misinformation whether from human, entity, teaching, or whatever.

I’ve had it my whole life and quickly learned that most others did NOT have it as, even as a child, I watched adults seemingly not “get” what was perfectly obvious to me.

I don’t know how DW and Sammy would intepret it as.

I would say that it involves having a good connection with one’s higher self, because at the end of the day, all higher selves pretty much have the same “opinion” when it comes to “stuff” on this plane.

It may sound slightly different depending on the person, era, topic but it’s going to have the same concept regardless.

There’s a reason I have chosen the higher self mandala as my avatar.
It’s hopefully so everyone is getting microdoses of higher self and better intuition fields every time they read a post.

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@lol

If i were to raise my vibration, would that get rid of my ego?

@Sims

Your ego would have less power upon you. But it wouldn’t get rid of it completely, you need it to a degree, at least on this plane. That’s my understanding of it.

@_OM

This is true.
Raising vibrations will lesson the ego and bring it under one’s control for the most part but true Enlightenment means a death of the ego (if only for a moment in “real” time).
At this point, one makes the decision to move on or come back to the material planes.

This is much like those sci-fi movies where the super powerful/smart robot goes out of control and has to be unplugged before the original “masters” can reset it to do it’s original purpose. Wonder how they got that idea?

If one decides to “come back” then there is an “adjustment” period where the Enlightened being has to literally reprogram the ego. ie. re-learn how to talk, interpret what people are “saying” etc.

This is often why stories of enlightened beings of old had them hiding out in a cave. They literally couldn’t function in normal human society.
This can last several years and often they need someone to “take care” of them…ie remind them to eat, bathe them, etc.

You can see this in the story of Ramana Maharshi who spent many years just sitting silently while news of his enlightenment brought students to him.

If you ever meet an Enlightened being, you might notice an interesting affect where it takes them a split second too long to respond to a question.

This is because usually what you are saying makes no “real” sense to them like a normal ego based conversation would.

They literally have to have their Higher Self interpret what the meaning of the words are, and more importantly, the real underlying question that’s being “couched” in ego b.s. and then answer.

The “experienced” ones will make some type of noise or look up or use a trusted student as “interference” to make this not seem so obvious.

You can see this in videos of David R. Hawkins with his wife, Susan.
And it becomes quite obvious when you know what to look for.

Dr. David R. Hawkins: Fulfilling Your Purpose in the World

**Okay, here’s the wall of text people have been asking for…

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Here are posts by @_OM and Sam (sammyg) in other threads:

@_OM

@Roi

I am asking this because I have already seen two people saying this while they had the suicidal thought, “they wanted to leave the physical plane”. And this monk is the third one who had the same experience, who happened to say the same phrase.

It’s called the “Dark Night of the Soul” and one can have several on one’s spiritual path.
In everyday language, many call it “hitting rock bottom”.

The ego has such a stranglehold on most people that they don’t start or fully surrender to their “Higher Self” even for a little bit, until they’ve reached a point where they have nowhere else to go because the Ego has run out of “answers.”

Btw - it’s totally avoidable and not “needed” at all, but for many, it’s absolutely needed and unavoidable…lol if that makes sense.

@_OM

@Roi

Is that the point where the benevolent or the higher beings or the universal guardians start to guide us in our right path?

It’s the point where one starts actually listening to them instead of ignoring them. They were/are always there.

@Roi

You either mean the higher Self? or the Beings or guardians?

@_OM

Yes.

@SammyG

@Roi In regards to the monk, seems like in facing death, he practically let go of his ego at that moment. In that moment of ego death, he experienced clarity. In that clarity, he knew what he truly wanted to do. The purpose he realized, was probably something he always knew he wanted to do but because of his conditioning over the years, he might have forgotten, never fully realized, or doubted himself, ext…

Also, oftentimes the higher self has its way of leading people through certain experiences to come to these realizations. In darkness, light shines brightest.

As for wanting to die to be a starting point… I wouldn’t say that. It just comes down to deconditioning the ego over time, so that your purpose becomes clear as day to you. Your purpose is clear to the true self that is currently overshadowed by the ego. The reason why the monk and others with near death experiences or even people on a big dose of psychedelics get these huge realizations is due to ego death. That moment of clarity is a doorway to truth.

Wanted to mention that it also varies as well. There are some people whose purpose is to help people and they are about to kill themselves and some beings step in. So there isn’t 1 answer for everything. The ego death example might be a common one but not always the case.

Also, I think everyone here is quite intelligent and have a lot of great wisdom to share. Their wisdom’s as good as mine. Remember that

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@Starlight

@Dreamweaver @SammyG How can I distinguish between my Ego voice vs. my Higher self voice?

Meaning, I ask a question or about to do something and I hear an inner voice say no. How do I know if it was coming from my Ego or Higher Self? How can I tell them apart?

I hope my question makes sense.

@_OM

How do you get to Carnegie Hall?

[spoiler]lol who’s old enough to know this saying??[/spoiler]

@Starlight

@_OM There has to be a way to distinguish the two. Is it the energy of the answer?

@_OM

Well sure… which one “wants it now” and sounds like a 3 year old? lol
Guess which one that is?

Remember every cartoon has these characters

The more you listen to one or the other, the “louder” and “clearer” it becomes to hear.

@SammyG

The best way to learn is to consistently meditate (lol that’s my solution to everything eh). The reason I say this is because in meditation, you are observing the ego. You dissociate from it and observe it objectively. You learn it’s voice.

And in learning it’s voice, you learn to know when it’s the ego talking. So it just becomes obvious at that point. Then when your higher self speaks to you, you’ll instantly know it’s not the ego and it’s the higher part of you. Beyond just the words it speaks, the information is also felt in the heart (for me at least) or for you, just might be felt wherever your intuition is most felt.

The higher self’s answers and directions towards the right path are also always sitting there in your mind. Very often, they are very simple and logical answers. But our egos tend to reject them so these simple/logical answers don’t feel right or we feel that there is something more to it, ext…