An Indexed Collection of Posts by Maoshan Wanderer

[Maoshan_Wanderer]

Hi @anon32464289

I have trained in nine different Daoist schools but my main school is the Maoshan sect. This sect has kinda remained secretive, so there do not seem to be many resources online for this sect.

The main approach of our school is to under the energy of Lightening and Thunderstorm (these are both metaphorical and literal) to effect alchemy, and also works extensively to channel energy from various deities and constellations/dimensions. It thus gets called “Sorcery” any a time although this word gets negatively perceived in the West. It requires training under various sects to achieve the opening of orbit, Dantiens etc., and then teaches techniques to explode the alchemy in a short duration of a decade or less to access other dimensional energies.

The goal is the Golden Dragon Body, which is similar in concept to the Rainbow Body of Enlightenment of the Dzogchen school of Tantric Buddhism.

Before this, my Neigong preparatory practice was from the amazing Sifu Wang Liping, who has talked about the Dragon Gate school in his book (excerpts). There seems to be another new book on this topic.

My main practice currently is the Maoshan Thunder sect methods which go well with the Trulkhor Yoga of Dzogchen. These are my current energetic/physical practices. I started with Kriya Yoga (which I do not practice anymore). Kashmir Shaivism and Dzogchen are my core spiritual systems, and the metaphysics/worldview I identify with more closely than others.

[anon32464289]

Thank you for the care in your reply.
Some interesting reads incoming

The resonance I got straight after watching the Trulkhor Yoga (so interesting btw) is to keep it simple for now, we are blessed to have Captain facilitating our ascension

[Maoshan_Wanderer]

Absolutely Trulkhor is a very forceful approach and not really necessary or safe for most people! It is like the Kālī of the Yogic systems, and probably the same applies to Thunder sect practices.

[Bronyraur]

Part 2

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NB: some of the posts are duplicated under several subtopics on purpose.

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Index

Alchemy
Chakras
Diet / Food, Drink & Supplements Usage
Energy (miscellaneous)
Higher Beings
Kundalini
Living with Gazillion Tags
Mantras
Spiritual Path & Practices
Three Treasures / San Bao (Chi, Jing, Shen)

[Bronyraur]

See also Part 1

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Alchemy

Summary

@Maoshan_Wanderer

The nine planetary bodies seem to have a subtle effect on body alchemy and this field seems to influence that for sure. For example, the moon is associated with the mind (chandrama manaso jatah - the moon is born of the Cosmic Mind) and it subtly influences the mood.

While playing this audio, I noticed certain minor/major alchemical flows getting activated in the energy body. So, there is a lot of stuff going on with this field, physically as well as emotionally.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Add Ojas to whatever other stacks you have. Ojas = an aura of influence in all aspects of life.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

[answering a question about the Ojas and the Internal Alchemical Crucible]

While they certainly affect the body and mind in myriad positive ways, practices involving them were primarily aimed at spirituality and Kundalini/enlightenment than physiological benefits. Yogic discipline believes that without complete balance of the body-mind complex, Enlightenment is nearly impossible, so physiology is certainly an important part of it.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Dr. David Frawley writes this:

• Vata = Chi/Qi
• Pitta = Yang
• Kapha = Yin
• Ojas = Jing

He writes, “Although this comparison does not hold true all the time, it does the majority of the time. In Ayurveda, there is a balanced/constructive, and an unbalanced/destructive side to Vata, Pitta, and Kapha. This is not true in Chinese Energetics. For example, Ojas is a constructive byproduct of a balanced Kapha, whereas an excess of mucus, or maybe a tumor is a destructive by-product of an unbalanced Kapha, whereas Jing is a more refined type of Chi, and has no downside to it unless it is forced through a part of the body that cannot handle it”.

Bridgette Shea, one of the pioneers in the comparative study of Ayurveda and Daoist Alchemy, says this:

In my opinion, Jing is a common term used for three aspects explained in Ayurveda - Soma (the essence, associated with Kapha), Shukra (the reproductive fluid), Ojas (the most refined aspect of soma and shukra). So, Jing is more of an umbrella term for these three if we were to attempt to map the two schools. Also, it must be noted that Ayurveda (Indian Traditional Medicine) and Yoga treat aspects such as Ojas, Tejas, etc., differently (although Ayurvedic use of these terms historically precedes the adaptation by Yogic schools).

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Chakras

Summary

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Every body has hearts, lungs - these are similar but not the same in all - depends on age, health, genes, and other factors.

It is the same thing with the chakras - they are similar, not same. The Chakras audio/tag will benefit anyone as we all have some form of this energetic structure called Chakras. I have seen differences in chakras, but yet to see anyone not having them (at least the humans I have encountered )

@Maoshan_Wanderer

There may be some similarities between chakras, dantiens, meridians, nadis etc. But is there any practical use in trying to establish similarity or difference in these systems?

Each of these is a part of different, complete systems of energy development and these systems use them in different ways. Pick any one of these two systems and if practiced well, results come.

Again, these components really are of no practical significance in isolation, but the devil is in the detail - how exactly does a system/toolkit use these components? Certain fire-based Daoist schools may use Dantiens similar to chakras while other water-based schools may have a completely different approach to them. Tibetan Tantric systems use both Daoist and Tantra concepts with a degree of syncretism (Chandali Yoga is their version of Kundalini Yoga).

There is really no one or best way of doing things (there are bad ways of doing them though) - they all have their merits. And many times, availability/access is a key consideration these days - which system can one learn easily with as little of dilution as possible.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

There are 72,000 nadis and 108 chakras - so I am pretty sure there’s enough room to accomodate all/any chakras haha. I don’t see any issues with these chakras. PI, for some of his claims that I disagree with, does borrow Hrit Chakra (hrit = heart) from Ramana Maharshi’s teachings and Maharshi describes this chakra based on his practical experience.

Chakras are a construct, often a useful way, to interact with the energy body. There is a lot of flexibility in approaching them, as long as we are not going totally outlandish

We need to abandon all constructs at some point, the key though is to do that only at the right time, and not throw the baby out with the bath water.

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Diet / Food, Drink & Supplements Usage

Summary

@Maoshan_Wanderer

[answering an inquiry about multiple ailments and health issues (stack recommendation available in the original post)]

Food is a major part of health. If you can skip gluten, processed foods and diary during this period and consume more fresh vegetables, greens, easy to digest proteins - that will absolutely increase your body’s ability to heal.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

I’ve been dabbling with Keto and Intermittent Fasting and both seemed to affect my already few hours of sleep quality.

I switched to a high protein, moderate fat and low carb diet and that seems to work amazingly well for me. Also, I keep my fasting to the day and reserve my carbs for the dinner and that absolutely helps with sleep.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

I tried living with “all natural” foods only, but meh, did not work well for my needs and lifestyle haha…

A couple reasons:

• We basically don’t cook at home at all. We rely mostly on salads Mon-Fri (we both have pretty great and healthy cafeterias at work, thankfully) and “cheat” during weekends and eat out lol… Though I left Manhattan, I guess Manhattan did not leave me. I find grocery shopping, cooking and cleaning consume a lot of effort and time and I don’t enjoy it. Since the last decade, I’ve tried to do, to the possible extent, only things I enjoy, and this is true for myself as well as my S.O. Some mundane tasks have begun to seem too mundane to me lately, and I am constantly trying to develop more equanimity so that these tasks don’t throw me off neutrality by a wide margin.
• Getting all nutrients through natural foods seems like a big lift! Precisely for the reason you stated. The amount of ingredients and calories need to get there is big! My metabolism is not one of those eat what you like and stay skinny kind, so I do need to watch my calories and workout (and regularly use Sapien workout fields).
• I travel a lot for work, so I need a sustainable, healthy solution to survive in airports and hotels.

So, I’ve been a supplement junkie and that has worked well for the most part.

For protein, I also use a powder. I’ve been using this brand called Huel Black and I quite like it!! It is plant based protein, diary free and that is certainly one of the factors I like this one. Do note that it is pretty fiber rich, so some folks initially have tummy troubles.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

I am a supplements junkie too haha… Love Ashwagandha, Rhodiola, Ginseng, Reishi, Shilajit and lately, Nigella Sativa. I try to cycle them whenever I can.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

I take some Zinc too, but not at night. My sleep is always free of dreams but I get super weird dreams if I take Zinc at nights! I am already a light sleeper and it seems to keep my mind busy and restless…

@Maoshan_Wanderer

I have been generally terrible about drinking water… now these chargers motivate me to drink more lol…

I drink 1 each of Mstate and Mantra charged water and 3 of the Stem Cells one (2 water, 1 smoothie) - can’t ever go back to drinking just water…

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Have you tried the new Gastrointestinal Specialist? If you have any underlying digestion issues, this is the most comprehensive field atm.

Have you also tried Super Metabolism Boost and Fascia Shakeup (this one seems to relieve any bloating related to water retention). Stomach Crunching and Toning does relieve bloating temporarily, but it is important to fix the root cause for bloating or its going to keep coming back.

Make sure to not drink cold fluids before and after meals, sip hot tea or warm water with meals, and add some black pepper, ginger and a tiny amount of ghee (refined butter) to your food - Ayurveda recommends these to awaken the digestive fire.

Some folks have also noted that the Enhanced Cellular Nutrient Absorption field has helped reduce digestive discomfort including bloating if used 30-min after a meal.

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Energy (miscellaneous)

Summary

@Maoshan_Wanderer

How we respond to energy fields is similar to how we respond to exercise, supplements, etc. There is no universal way here as each person responds to energy fields uniquely - based on his/her energetic health, capability, the quality of the energetic field, and a host of other factors.

A couple of things you can do:

• Maintain energetic health by not listening to creators who are not very skilled in creating energy products. Despite best intentions, if a field is not created with finesse, it causes long-term problems.
• Follow commonsense protocols for a healthy body and mind - nutrition, sleep, hydration, relaxation, exercise, etc. The Body-Mind Complex, when sufficiently healthy, responds to the fields readily.
• As @Freitql pointed out, use the Core 3 audios regularly: Ego Dissolution, Subconscious Limits Remover, and Energy Blockage Removal.
• Stop using different audios for a few weeks other than the above 3 and the Point of No Return stack. A lot of times, less is more. Looping audios incessantly is not always productive.
• Do some form of meditation or energy exercise regularly. Could be Pranayama, Qigong, or the Reiki Star Exercise which has produced results for many many folks on this forum.
• Do some form of active release exercise. Could be something specific like say EFT , Yuen Method, etc., or something generic like Going into the Heart Space .
• A few times a day, actively Let Go .
• Lastly, always end the day with a few rounds of the Grounding audio.

Consistency and perseverance are the keys. Also, never forget that the Universe loves and deeply cares for all its creation. There are amazing beings looking out for us, so dispel thoughts of doubt, despair, and desperation and saddle up for a new day and a new future. It’s only going to get better from here on…

@Maoshan_Wanderer

The way I see it, there is nothing positive or negative. Essentially, we (our energy systems) react positively or negatively to various things, and even that changes with time.

For example, are almonds negative? Yes, for people who react negatively to it due to intolerance, but not for many others.

While dealing with positive/negative energies as such is good to address the symptoms temporarily, the long-term goal should be to align with Neutrality (borrowing the term from Dr. Yuen). There is a notion that to be happy (which is the goal of everything we do right?) - (a) We need to achieve a bunch of things that are considered positive (b) Stay away from a bunch of other things that are considered negative - so says conventional wisdom. Now if we design our lives around doing “positive” things and avoiding “negative” things, the definitions of which change constantly, are we sure we will be happy and balanced?

Being aligned with Neutrality would be to rise above it all, to be not affected energetically by either things perceived as positive or negative. Even supposedly positive things/emotions can imbalance us. Energy is energy - at the core, it cannot be negative or positive, but the reaction or judgment to it is what makes it as such.

When one stays in a Neutral state, there is no need to block, shield, remove “negative” energies, or do any kind of acrobatics to attract the “positive” energies. Sometimes, entertaining a strong belief (/fear) that we need to block/shield against a certain energy/energetic pattern is what fuels that particular energy, manifesting an attack (I write this because many folks on this forum are constantly worried about entity attacks and actually manifest them). Not dwelling in a space of fear (block, shield, expel, avoid attack, remove demons) or lack (manifest, attract this or that, enhance this, increase that) fixes problems a lot faster than dwelling in such a place and then trying to fix issues.

Love energy is one way to be neutral (as long as it is not conditional and not restricted to an emotion), Mindfulness is another way. The field of neutrality is another way to look at Non-duality or Advaita where things are present, many many things, many many energies, we just exist in harmony with them all by realizing that at the core, it is the same energy that appears in myriad apparitions. The Vibration series should eventually get us into this Neutrality zone.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Add Ojas to whatever other stacks you have. Ojas = an aura of influence in all aspects of life.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

The way to clear clutter is never to add more clutter. Sometimes, when it is all in one’s head, no amount of someone else saying something will help.

There is one such thread created every few days - the name of products and audios change, but the theme seems to be the same.

Again, “doing nothing” and grounding is the only thing that will help. Mind is very powerful, it can blur the line between reality and fantasy. (…) Would one bombard the body with all kinds of chemicals? No, right? Why then would we do that with the energy body - subjecting it to every damn audio, tool, attunement, mandala, etc.?

Peace…

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Another question to ask - why do you think having more emotions or emotions that other people think you should have - important? Emotions are useful energetic charge, which most people frequently need to transmute - maybe you don’t have to go through that cycle at all!

Do you, in your heart, feel genuinely disabled due to a perceived lack of emotions, or you just need them to “fit in”?

@Maoshan_Wanderer

When listening to energy audios, I look for two things. Preferably neutral personal energy signature, like Sapien - pure information and intended information and no fillers, intentional or not. Or, an element of joy, which again may/may not be beneficial but does not cause major problems. For example, Quadible does something she calls “love”, which the puritan in me does not really care for, but I don’t really sense any deep damage from it. Rest, I am personally not very comfortable - why would I want someone’s baggage to flow through my energy system, right? That does not mean their products are not useful for anyone, just not something I would use. There is use for everything, the question though is, at what cost?

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Another thing that also matters is one’s current level of energetic cultivation and also its nature.

In China, a few years ago, there was a Qigong system named Falun Gong , which claimed to represent the original teachings of Buddha. This eventually got banned by the communist government of China, partly because of its cultish behavior, and partly because of the effect it had on people. Initially, people began experiencing miraculous healings, and the movement took off big time. And then came the backlash. There was cases of people having psychotic episodes, schizophrenia, terminal cancers, kidney failures, etc.

When experienced Qigong masters began to critically evaluate the energetics behind this form, they found that the system involved installing a semi-sentient structure (Falun wheel) in one’s lower Dantien which revolved in a certain pattern. For people with little to no energetic development, this seemed okay, at least initially. And for people who had cultivated to an extent, had a developed Dantien, had established orbits, active meridians etc., this Falun did not fit their energy system at all, as it was doing something drastically different and wrecked their energy system leading them down a path of no recovery. Interestingly, the founder of this cult was once a student of my Daoist teacher Wang Liping, and I am not sure what really made him go bonkers! Now he is in hiding, cashing on his persecution martyrdom.

Another such Qigong system is Xiang Gong, a form which had (has?) a cult following in China, famously known as Fragrance Chikung due to people smelling flowers when practicing this form. The Grandmaster of this form instructed people not to mix it with anything else, including simple things like mindful breathing. Some folks had excellent results with it, while others got into major troubles leading to psychotic episodes, energetic collapse, adrenal fatigue, etc. This system essentially does not cultivate Chi, but uses available Chi to heal. In beginners, there is not much Chi, so the level of drainage is also low. But in intermediate to advanced practitioners of any spiritual disciple who have a reservoir of Chi, this system forced excessive drainage of Chi for physical healing causing imbalance and illness.

This system also heavily emphasized on a set of “rules” tied to good and bad Karma and the energetics of this belief system held by its creator-teacher were deeply embedded in this energetic implant called Falun wheel that developed in those who practiced this form. Not confirming to this set of “rules” caused problems in two ways. One, the practitioners were overcome with extreme guilt. Two, the wheel’s energetics did not take kindly to transgressions. Taoism, in its pure form, cares not much for the Buddhist concept of Karma, which in turn came from the Vedic philosophers, but developed as a central theme in Buddhism. The Dao simply is about harmonizing and balancing energies and interaction between energies so that the outcomes are also balanced and beneficial (sort of like making all Karma good). The emphasis is not on morality, but on practice to a large extent. So this concept of stringent, energetically imposed set of rules (which reflect the attitude of its creator/teacher), alien to the Dao, carried forth in his energetic signature causing many a problem.

The point is - energetic systems are complex and involved. Unless one is exactly sure of what different components of different systems are doing, experimenting without caution can cause long term damage to health and well-being.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Of course, I am not dissuading anyone from using anything or trying to convert folks to Sapienism, etc. haha. Just my opinion, which may very well be a subjective one.

When I started out, several teachers drove into me the concept of sanctity of energy or purity of energy (although I tend to resist using the p-word). We just did not mix various kinds of energy work with a kitchen sink approach, unless people reached a state where, either they intimately understood the workings of the body, the energy, and their interaction, or, were resilient enough to withstand throw what you may.

When practicing some Dzogchen techniques, I was told not to mix other forms. Same with our Maoshan thunder sect, where while doing a lightening practice as a novice, I decided to innovate, added a certain boosting technique from another Daoist sect, and almost went insane. My Sifu gave me a beating, literally!

I know we all build stacks from various creators, hoping that more audios equal faster results. However, caution is needed. Assaulting the energy body without a clear understanding of what the audio does to the energy body can have long-term ill effects. So, either be cautious or develop a keen intuition and connection to your guides/guardians, who will look out for you and guide you.

Also, research the creators - what is their technique, how were they trained to develop their skills, are they producing real results or it just feels strong (a lot of times, strong is simply the energy being non-graceful and brutalizing the energy body), etc. If the creators are not forthcoming with clear answers, be wary. Fear is not necessary, caution is!

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To Vax, or Not to Vax

@Maoshan_Wanderer

I frankly don’t sense anything drastically malicious with the vaccine (also we have the Plasma Protocol. OM suggested running Plasma Protocol and Blueprint for the next few days, which I am doing).

Ultimately this is what I think. There are many things around us, nothing is really good or bad. How we react is what makes things good or bad. If a field of influence throws us off neutrality (as Brenda from Twisted Sage tells us), it can be bad. But we always have the choice to remain balanced aka in the field of neutrality (Luminous Void) - firmly connected to the Higher Self, and then we are not going to be thrown off balance by anything (a lot of times, it is things we perceive as good are the ones which throw us off our core/neutrality causing emotional/physical problems). At the end of the day, aliens, deities, dimensions, matter, energy, external objects - are all aspects of this one Void, and being consciously aligned to it is the long-term answer to all our problems. As they say, the creation is but a dream, when you wake up, there goes the dream (no pun intended haha)

When Sexual Performance Anxiety is a Matter of Stuck Energy

@Maoshan_Wanderer

[Black Martian Jing]! And probably even the more comprehensive Negentropic Jing…

In TCM, sexual anxiety is often attributed to energy stagnating in the liver and kidney.

• Black Martian Jing (add Negentropic Jing too if you can)
• Microcosmic Orbit (the old one from Alchemy series)
• Liver Regeneration
• Kidney Regeneration
• Acu Automation

If these do not fix the issue (in addition to anxiety & trauma/self-love fields), fields that help digestion can be added. The sexual desire in a person is described as “fire” - and this is also tied to digestive fire - if the latter is weak, the former is also weak.

And needless to say - lifestyle choices. Good nutrition, sleep, exercise, hydration - without these, no remedies will help long term.

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Higher Beings

Summary

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Ganesha too has various forms.

Ganapati - the Lord of ‘Ganas’ which means attendants. These attendants are:

(a) In the Macrocosm - the elements, elemental beings, demi-semi-gods of various categories, etc. Ganesha gives mastery over these beings as well, if his energy is accessed. A lot of times, these beings also cause mischief, and he prevents such occurrences.
(b) In the Microcosm - these represent the senses (eyes, ears, nose, skin, taste) and he has complete mastery over them so that one can turn inward. Without these obstacles, one can jump deep into meditation and contemplation.

This form of Ganesha propitiated at the very beginning of every activity, is generally a four-handed depiction:

Mahaganapati (Great Ganapati or Ganesha) is a higher-form in which he is present with a consort - named Siddhilakshmi. This is the form we invoke in the Tantra practice because Yin-Yang always go hand in hand. We call that Yab-yum in Tibetan, with the male representing Compassion and the Female, Insight/Wisdom. In Hindu parlance, the female is Power (shakti) and the male is the holder of this Power (Shaktimaan) - neither is complete without the other.

Siddhilakshmi is the personification of perfection, or goals already accomplished, as also the bestower of property and fulfillment. His ten hands signify ten forms of blessings while his consort represents the fulfillment of what one seeks.

The Yagna covers both these aspects of the deity.

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Approach of Deities

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Generally a sense of respect, love, or good vibes towards the deities always helps develop a better connection. Most times, the state of space, body and mind are stressed in traditional deity work as all three affect the energy system and may hinder an energetic link with the deity, if chaotic. So, these observances initially will help, but are not absolutely necessary as Dream creates these fields to make the energies accessible to all, with not much effort on our parts.

The higher your vibration - whatever be the way for one to get there (purity of body and mind, meditative state, space clearing, food habits, etc.) - better the connection.

This is true for most but then there are also Aghoris and some such sects who follow no rules, of space or bodily purity or otherwise, and yet have tremendous inner purity due to their extreme disattachment to everything, and the ability to see divinity in the sacred and the profane.

So, I would not worry too much or get too held up on applying the actual rules needed during the Yagna, to listen to these fields.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

There is always immense value in mindfully, “with awareness” connecting to these high-vibration deities/intelligent forces.

That said, it does not need to come from a place of fear or compulsion.

These are primordial beings, they are real, but also unreal as they are archetypical projections of one’s one Higher Self, or say the Universal Mind. So, they are as unreal as they are real.

Historically, Asian cultures have used emotional energy to connect to them - could be devotion, love, respect, etc. This emotional relating to the deities helps solidify the connection one has to them. However, all Hindu ritualism stems back to Vedic Mimamsa school, where rituals - if done perfectly - would grant the results irrespective of emotions, etc. While an emotional connection enhances the rituals, technically it is unneeded.

So, while you can benefit big time by mindfully listening to these audios, acknowledging the deities, etc., there is also tremendous value in listening to them passively as well - Dream always considers various circumstances that people use his audios in, and has checks and balances. So, nothing to fear here…think of these deities are expressions of your higher self, perfected aspects of your higher self - and then the fear ceases.

I have indeed noticed a few things with deities, however.

• For example, the energies of these deities flow through very well when the environment is clean, the energy of the place is free of clutter, bad smells, etc. Probably the reason most rituals in the east and west start with clearing and cleansing procedures.
• Some feminine energies like say Durga are protective in nature. They do not reside in places where there is an abuse of women, children, etc. As these are guardian deities, they respond to appeals for help and the abusers are dealt with force, at times.
• The energies build over time. The presence of an elevated deity builds over a period of time, so consistency helps.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

[quote also reported under the Goddess subsection, a few lines below]

There are a lot of misconceptions about Deities as approached by the Eastern Mystic Schools. Very often, people erroneously approach Deities and misconception seems to stem from two ideas - one, the faith-based, rigid Abrahamic view of one paternal deity and rest rejected as idolatry or pagans or even worse, as satanic forces (whatever that means lol). The other, is to map them to various perceived alien races (Annunaki seems to be the favorite - you don’t understand something? Call it Annunaki!). The reason I mention this is to stress on the importance of concept or view. Every concept has some degree of truth relative to oneself, but we need to pick and choose concepts carefully.

Take the example of a stone. It is just a stone. And then comes a Hindu or Buddhist Tantric who holds a specific concept of a deity in his mind while in a deeply absorptive state, channels this concept and the energetic archetype underlying the concept through mantra, yantra, etc., into the stone and behold, the stone is now a living representation of the deity capable of various functions. In Buddhism, it is frequently explained that the same mantra can give vastly different results based on the concept or the view held of the mantra and the deity by the reciter of the mantra.

Here is a simple and watered down summary of how a deity like Chandi may be approached. In Vedic systems, the key concept is this - “upāsakānāṁ kāryārthaṁ brahmaṇō rūpakalpanā” - The Brahman (Universal Divine Consciousness) is without a name, form, state, etc., and is pretty much imperceivable for most. To access the energy of this magnificent vastness, one has to conceptualize it in terms of aspects we understand - a name and a form. This makes the ever-present and indescribable Divine Consciousness accessible even in the plane of duality. This is sort of like utilizing the electricity within various applications as electricity as a concept or energy is directly not usable in practical day to day life.

Now, Deities have two aspects. In the macrocosm, they are very real, Primordial forces, emanations from the Cosmic Divine Mind. Each deity has a specific aspect or energetic application. In the microcosm, they are non-different from the Self - as the deity is nothing but the awakened aspect of one’s own radiant Self. Take Chandi for example. This deity is conceptualized as “rightful wrath of the Divine Consciousness” - while love or wrath mean nothing at the level of absolute non-duality, they represent the Divine wrath against various things on a dualistic plane - wrath against ignorance, duality, demonic entities, lack of abundance, death, diseases, etc. Traditionally one connects to a deity through various methods:

• Nāma - the name is a very strong energetic connection to the deity. An ancient Taoist saying goes, “name is the strongest spell in the world”.
• Rūpa - the form. While visualizing the form of the deity, the color, the aura, the weapons and ornaments, etc., one contemplates on the concepts represented by the external form of the deity
• Mantra - the sound form of the deity
• Yantra - the mandala which is the light form of the deity
• Tattva - the metaphysical concept that underlies the deity, which is usually the secret meaning of the mantra that is imparted by the teacher along with the mantra

@Sakurablossom

didn’t feel any connection with the Goddess but the way my body reacts, she is doing powerful work. I’m sure I’ll be making a connection with her with more listens.

There is a famous saying related to the Goddess - ābālagōpaviditā - known by children and fools alike! How can even children and fools know the Goddess who is described as the fully awakened form of Kundalini, and the full-blooming of consciousness? Because even the ignorant know Her as the self (whether they associate the self with the body, mind, or body-mind complex) - so even when we think we do not know Her, we indeed know her - as self, as energy, as breath, as desire, as aspiration, as lust, as anger and rarely, as Universal Impersonal Consciousness. So, you are already good

Traditionally, one had to develop connection to the deity (aka unfold the energetic consciousness) through sheer hard work (or through Shaktipat transmission where the connection of the entire lineage is passed on as an attunement). But this audio vastly simplifies it. Even if one does not connect deeply to the deity, the energy is still there and doing its work.

The Deities are divinely intelligent and aspects of your Higher Self. You can request for specific things - like continued protection in your case, while playing the audio. I think you are already doing things right (Booted Bhoots, Shatachandi, Aura Repair, Core Restoration, Smart Cord Cutter). Additionally, you may want to add once a week of Deep Aura Cleaning.

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Facets of The Goddess through Chandi and Others

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Call her Kali, Durga, Sekhmet, Athena, or many other names that are now forgotten, or names that are used in other dimensions. The Divine Consciousness, which pervades all, which is THE true existence, and which is what projects an image that we call the material universe - that Supreme Non-dual Consciousness is what I like to call the Goddess…

@Maoshan_Wanderer

The [Shatachandi Yagna] field makes energies of the Shatachandi ritual - available to us.

It is not the same as directly invoking the Goddess. The field is a safer way to approach such a potent ritual - avail the benefits without the associated risks.

Think of Angelic Intercession. Is it same as invoking an angelic being to appear before you through a complex ritual like the Abremalin Operation which only the most advanced of practitioners should attempt? Not really. It is a gentle way to seek help form Angelic beings - you may feel their presence, and most experience their grace.

Chandi is Kundalini personified in a blazing state piercing through the heart knot. This is why caution is required when invoking forms like Kali, Chandi etc., to ensure sufficient prep has been done. Hence we say - Tantra is like a jet. It flies very fast, but without the needed skills, an accident can be fatal.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

The Deity/Archetype tool is available for both Bhoga (pleasure, material wealth, etc.) or Moksha (enlightenment). It is the attitude of the user which determines our path

Vedanta or other similar paths ask us to pick one or the other - in Tantra, we don’t exclude either.

It is said:

yatrāsti bhōgō nahi tatra mōkṣaḥ
yatrāsti mōkṣō nahi tatra bhōgaḥ |
śrīsundarīsādhanatatparāṇāṁ
bhōgaśca mōkṣaśca karastha ēva ||

“Where there is material pleasure, there is no spiritual enlightenment. And where the focus is on spiritual enlightenment, there is no room for sensory pleasures. But for those that adore Sundari (here refers to Tripurasundarī, the highest archetype of the Goddess in Tantras), both material comfort and spiritual enlightenment are achieved naturally and easily”.

The reason for that is the perspective of Tantra which does not believe in good vs bad, negative vs positive, profane vs sacred, etc. Everything is an extension of the Goddess and everything can be used as a tool for spiritual upliftment, including emotions, and sensory pleasures.

Let us take the example of the Shatachandi field. We can intend to align the energies any which way we want, be it for curing diseases, achieving wealth, protection from humans and/or entities, etc., or for enlightenment, purification, discernment, etc. I personally prefer the path of “Nishkama Karma” at this stage - where I just invoke the Goddess and leave it to her all-knowing Self (aka my own Self) to do what is best for me at this moment in time

This is reflected in the actual fire ritual of Chandi itself (which the field simulates/automates) - every ritual is preceded by a step called Sankalpa - where the performer explicitly states the objective of the ritual. Some examples are:

• sarvarōganivr̥ttyarthē (for the purpose of removing all diseases)
• apamr̥tyunivāraṇārthē (to prevent untimely death)
• sarvaiśvaryasiddhyarthē (to achieve all forms of wealth)
• grahabādhānivāraṇārthē (to remove affliction caused by entities including ghosts, demons, imps, stars and planets, etc.)
• sarvābhicāraśamanārthē (to remove the ill effects of spells, black magic, etc.)

For spiritual purposes, we typically use:

• dēvyabhēdasiddhyarthē (to become one with the Goddess to realize our own Self as Her effulgent, enlightened presence)
• advayāvasthābhivr̥ddhyarthē (to achieve the state of non-duality)
• sarvapāpakṣayārthē (to burn away sins and karma that hold us back)
• brahmabhāvasiddhyarthē (to achieve the state where one sees the Goddess as the self, and as the self of every aspect of creation), etc.

So, state your intention, and then listen and wait for the magic to happen

@Maoshan_Wanderer

A Chandi Homa performed with authenticity for those curious on how exactly it is done.

The period this was done is called Varahi Navaratri (nine nights dedicated to the goddess named Varahi, who represents the physical energy of the Goddess and is invoked to protect oneself from dangers) - and hence her seed mantra is used to sandwich every verse of Saptashati 700 verses (called samputa or sandwiching technique) - which generates a very unique and powerful effect that is a combination of two deities - Chandi and Varahi.

The fire ritual is empowered by these aspects - breath control, mantra, intention, an existing connection to the deity by the main conductor of the ritual, presence of mandalas/yantras to focus the energy and finally, fire consecrated through mandalas and mantras which amplifies the energy and brings through the presence of the deity invoked. The ritual is generally preceded by a million recitations of the mantra, and followed by feeding the poor, charity, etc.

Sri Chandi Homam - Ashadha Navaratri, Laksha Chandi Maha Yagnam

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Chandi is the warrior form of Durga, known for destroying demonic forces - external ones that we face in astral dimensions, and the internal ones - excesses, unbalance, dis-ease, lack, impoverishment, etc.

The ritual of Shata Chandi (shata means 100 times Chandi) is one of the most potent rituals performed in India to ward off dangers, pandemics, etc. While it does grant individual benefits for sure, it has been used mostly for collective benefit of humanity, for everyone’s well-being - so this is a crucial aspect of this ritual. In the current cycle (called Kaliyuga), of the various forms of Durga, Chandi is supposed to be the most powerful in granting requests.

The ritual is complex - requires recitation of the mantra of Chandi thousands of time, several priests simultaneously reciting the 700-verse scripture Saptashati, and offering various offerings into the fire, in which Chandi is invoked as the radiance of the fire. This is not only a complex procedure requiring skill, but also an expensive one.

Thanks to Dream for making these beneficial energies available to everyone, especially during these trying times in many countries across the world.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

The effects of Chandi are manifold:

na tēṣāṁ duṣkr̥taṁ kiñcidduṣkr̥tōtthā na cāpadaḥ |
bhaviṣyati na dāridryaṁ na caivēṣṭaviyōjanam ||

One is freed from evils and dangers of all kinds; poverty or the energy of lack is destroyed forever and re-united with loved ones.

upasargānaśēṣāṁstu mahāmārīsamudbhavān |
tathā trividhamutpātaṁ māhātmyaṁ śamayēnmama ||

One is freed from epidemics and infectious diseases as well as sufferings arising out of three causes - material/physical, supernatural/unseen, and spiritual.

yatraitatpaṭhyatē samyaṅnityamāyatanē mama |
sadā na tadvimōkṣyāmi sānnidhyaṁ tatra mē sthitam ||

Wherever this procedure is continuously done, the protective energies and presence of the Goddess become present there.

parākramaṁ ca yuddhēṣu jāyatē nirbhayaḥ pumān |
ripavaḥ saṅkṣayaṁ yānti kalyāṇaṁ cōpapadyatē |
nandatē ca kulaṁ puṁsāṁ māhātmyaṁ mama śr̥ṇvatām |

One is blessed with valor, fearlessness and strength, and victory in battles (this is the reason kings of yore performed this ritual). The enemies are vanquished and overall well-being is achieved. One’s family prospers for generations by the long-extending energy of this process.

grahapīḍāsu cōgrāsu māhātmyaṁ śr̥ṇuyānmama |
rakṣōbhūtapiśācānāṁ paṭhanādēva nāśanam ||

One is freed from afflictions of Grahas - which is of two types. The Planetary influences which are non-beneficial, are corrected to produce beneficial impact. Grahas also mean spirits and demonic entities of various kinds - this energy destroys such maleficent entities. Wherever there is the presence of the Goddess, lower vibratory presence cannot exist (ghosts, waywards, demons, astral vampires, etc.) just like the sunlight clears darkness.

sarvābādhāsu ghōrāsu vēdanābhyarditō’pi vā |
smaran mamaitaccaritaṁ narō mucyēta saṅkaṭāt ||

When anyone in insufferable grief, suffering, disease, or danger invokes these energies of the Goddess, they are blessed with relief.

itthaṁ yadā yadā bādhā dānavōtthā bhaviṣyati |
tadā tadāvatīryāhaṁ kariṣyāmyarisaṅkṣayam ||

This was a promise by the Goddess to one of her seers recorded and recited from centuries - 'Whenever, wherever evil (this word simply means non-beneficial) arises, there is suffering on that account, when invoked, I will appear there in myriad forms and destroy the cause for suffering".

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Some forms of the Goddess are motherly, protective and interestingly, these are the popular forms, as these energies were deemed manageable for most folks (perhaps). Durga certainly falls into that category. This audio, in my opinion, mirrors the energy of Durga more and a tad less of her more warrior-like form called Chandi or Chandika, and intentionally so.

The Goddess represents the aspects of the Divine like creation, nurturing, protection, beauty, tenderness, etc., and hence She gets called the Mother (as she births, re-births - creation, consciousness) - but in reality, that Divine Consciousness is without a gender/polarity. In dualistic sense of the universe, she has names, forms, attributes, qualities; in a higher non-dualistic sense, she is just one unbridled, vast, unified consciousness that is without name, forms.

And different forms have different energies to them. Kali is also fiercely protective, but a whole different vibe than Durga. Lakshmi is very sparkly, bright and effervescent. My favorite is Lalita, the playful one - who embodies the erotic energies, the creative beauty of the nature, the epitome of sexual alchemy.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

But the greatness of Shatachandi and Atirudra procedures is that they are not just aimed at personal empowerment, but also the well-being of the collective humanity. In fact, there are prescriptions that Chandi (single) is for the self, Shata-Chandi (100XChandi) is for the Country and Sahasra Chandi (1000XChandi) is for the Universe. There is also a Ayuta-Chandi (10000XChandi) which I have not personally seen performed - because of the enormity of this ritual.

Every fire ritual ends with this prayer:

Om Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah
Sarve Santu Nir-Aamayaah |
Sarve Bhadraanni Pashyantu
Maa Kashcid-Duhkha-Bhaag-Bhavet |

May all become happy
May none experience dis-ease …
May all see auspiciousness everywhere
May none ever feel sorrow …

@Maoshan_Wanderer

• If wealth, prosperity, abundance, these are your immediate concerns, get Ashtalakshmi Yagna
• If protection, difficulties in life, health problems, general spiritual progress, etc. are your immediate goals, get Chandi.

You can’t go wrong with either as both are forms the Goddess anyway, different flavors of the energy with different specialized applications though.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

• Chandi is a very fierce deity. Unless one has studied her mantra from a competent teacher, I would NOT recommend jumping into such mantras directly, especially without the proper backing of lineage energies to protect if something goes wrong. Deities like Kali, Chandi, etc. are not really for all. There is a lot of preparation that is needed before invoking archetypes such as these as they can wreak havoc on the energy system if not sufficiently prepared.
• The Chandi Yagna involves a very elaborate protocol. Several thousand recitations of the mantra of Chandi, followed by pre-procedures such as an armour of protection, a ritual for “unlocking” the power of Chandi (it is locked unless transmitted through a person who has the key), etc. The actual ritual involves recitation of 700 verses. To recite the full Chandi (we call it Saptashati - the “seven hundred verses”), it takes me 3.5 hours - I do it only twice a month due to the effort/time involved. So, unless one is proficient, this could take a year or two for most to master (assuming familiarity with Sanskrit)
• How to listen to the audio? I wrote on that topic here .

This is a complex and very elaborate ritual. This is another reason why extra thanks are to be extended to Dream for making the energies from such a complex ritual available to us.

As to the frequency, every now and then should be good enough (though I do listen to it everyday). The ritual itself is performed say a few times a year by ritualists. This field however, is the basic ritual X 100 times - and Shata-chandi (100 times Chandi) is generally annually performed in large temples, etc. So, I would say, every now then, may be once a month/quarter should be good enough. Ultimately, it depends on how well you are responding to the field, or its energy (the same criterion as other fields).

@Maoshan_Wanderer

[comparing astrological effects]

Chandi is an aspect of the Great Goddess that controls everything sentient, so it certainly does influence even the planets. A form of Chandi (called Vanadurga or the Goddess of the Forests is specifically known to influence planets in favor of those that invoke her energy).

However, Navagraha Homa in some cases might have a faster effect, especially if you know you have a negative planetary position.

I would say go with your gut. If I had to pick only one of the two, it would be Chandi as there is nothing she cannot accomplish. It is also one of my Top 3 mantras for precisely that reason.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

It is the same thing that transforms to water, ice, steam. Same carbon is diamond and various other things. Same electricity can be used to light, heat or shock and kill. Similarly are these goddesses same at the level of non-duality - absolutely! In the plane of material transaction are they different? - yes they certainly are!

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Fierce in terms of their energy signature and function.

Their energetic effect, in myths, are explained as anger, etc., but essentially, it is their energetic signature. They work in different ways.

For example, Kali is the manifestation of utmost speed of Kundalini awakened. She will ascend quickly, through the chakras, piercing knots, not giving any time for one to adjust, assimilate, etc. Results are quick, but it may completely blow up the unprepared.

One teacher explained it this way. "Take Kali and Lalita, they are both aspects of the Mother Goddess. They both are expressions of our inner Kundalini, but personified in different aspects. Kali is very compassionate, so compassionate that she cannot wait another minute to see her child dwelling in duality. She will hold you, pull you through all obstacles like a lightening jolt all the way to the crown chakra and beyond. Now, she may pull you through a keyhole, which is easy for her to pass through, but not you (‘you’ here is the gross mind-body complex), you end up experiencing tremendous pain, perceived misery, etc.

Now Lalita on the other hand is gentle, like an indulgent mother slowly guiding you through the doors, matching your pace, allowing you to enjoy the sights on the way, and so on. Both are paths to progression, some prefer the first, some others can handle the second".

This is what inner Deity Yoga is all about. The Kundalini, the energetic channels and currents are personalized with archetypal qualities and regulated using pre-defined, pre-tested templates so that the path is easier, less prone to obstacles and suffering. However, like with all religions, “inner” aspects get lost over a period of time.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

The word Kālī has two connotations.

• One myth states that the celestial gods and sages and humans approached the Goddess once, who was Gaurī (literally means the one of fair complexion) and prayed to her that the cosmos was being overtaken by demonic entities who were destroying everything Good. Listening to their plight, she turned to a dark hue with anger and came to be known as Kālī. The word Kāla varna means pitch black color, and her assuming this form is to indicate her power as all consuming (black hole) - while her aspect as Gaurī, the creator and nourisher, is a different side of the same coin.
• Kāla means time, as also death. As her grace helps transcend not only time (and space) but also a limited existence (life spent as a struggle to survive with a fear of death), she comes to be called Kālī.

Just like the color black absorbs everything else in the spectrum, She is what emerges when all duality, forms and names are absorbed into Nothingness.

Her energy is very intense, so some caution is needed when approaching her. Her state is to ascend fast and quick, cutting through obstacles and it is not always a pleasant experience.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

There are a lot of misconceptions about Deities as approached by the Eastern Mystic Schools. Very often, people erroneously approach Deities and misconception seems to stem from two ideas - one, the faith-based, rigid Abrahamic view of one paternal deity and rest rejected as idolatry or pagans or even worse, as satanic forces (whatever that means lol). The other, is to map them to various perceived alien races (Annunaki seems to be the favorite - you don’t understand something? Call it Annunaki!). The reason I mention this is to stress on the importance of concept or view. Every concept has some degree of truth relative to oneself, but we need to pick and choose concepts carefully.

Take the example of a stone. It is just a stone. And then comes a Hindu or Buddhist Tantric who holds a specific concept of a deity in his mind while in a deeply absorptive state, channels this concept and the energetic archetype underlying the concept through mantra, yantra, etc., into the stone and behold, the stone is now a living representation of the deity capable of various functions. In Buddhism, it is frequently explained that the same mantra can give vastly different results based on the concept or the view held of the mantra and the deity by the reciter of the mantra.

Here is a simple and watered down summary of how a deity like Chandi may be approached. In Vedic systems, the key concept is this - “upāsakānāṁ kāryārthaṁ brahmaṇō rūpakalpanā” - The Brahman (Universal Divine Consciousness) is without a name, form, state, etc., and is pretty much imperceivable for most. To access the energy of this magnificent vastness, one has to conceptualize it in terms of aspects we understand - a name and a form. This makes the ever-present and indescribable Divine Consciousness accessible even in the plane of duality. This is sort of like utilizing the electricity within various applications as electricity as a concept or energy is directly not usable in practical day to day life.

Now, Deities have two aspects. In the macrocosm, they are very real, Primordial forces, emanations from the Cosmic Divine Mind. Each deity has a specific aspect or energetic application. In the microcosm, they are non-different from the Self - as the deity is nothing but the awakened aspect of one’s own radiant Self. Take Chandi for example. This deity is conceptualized as “rightful wrath of the Divine Consciousness” - while love or wrath mean nothing at the level of absolute non-duality, they represent the Divine wrath against various things on a dualistic plane - wrath against ignorance, duality, demonic entities, lack of abundance, death, diseases, etc. Traditionally one connects to a deity through various methods:

• Nāma - the name is a very strong energetic connection to the deity. An ancient Taoist saying goes, “name is the strongest spell in the world”.
• Rūpa - the form. While visualizing the form of the deity, the color, the aura, the weapons and ornaments, etc., one contemplates on the concepts represented by the external form of the deity
• Mantra - the sound form of the deity
• Yantra - the mandala which is the light form of the deity
• Tattva - the metaphysical concept that underlies the deity, which is usually the secret meaning of the mantra that is imparted by the teacher along with the mantra

@Sakurablossom

didn’t feel any connection with the Goddess but the way my body reacts, she is doing powerful work. I’m sure I’ll be making a connection with her with more listens.

There is a famous saying related to the Goddess - ābālagōpaviditā - known by children and fools alike! How can even children and fools know the Goddess who is described as the fully awakened form of Kundalini, and the full-blooming of consciousness? Because even the ignorant know Her as the self (whether they associate the self with the body, mind, or body-mind complex) - so even when we think we do not know Her, we indeed know her - as self, as energy, as breath, as desire, as aspiration, as lust, as anger and rarely, as Universal Impersonal Consciousness. So, you are already good

Traditionally, one had to develop connection to the deity (aka unfold the energetic consciousness) through sheer hard work (or through Shaktipat transmission where the connection of the entire lineage is passed on as an attunement). But this audio vastly simplifies it. Even if one does not connect deeply to the deity, the energy is still there and doing its work.

The Deities are divinely intelligent and aspects of your Higher Self. You can request for specific things - like continued protection in your case, while playing the audio. I think you are already doing things right (Booted Bhoots, Shatachandi, Aura Repair, Core Restoration, Smart Cord Cutter). Additionally, you may want to add once a week of Deep Aura Cleaning.

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Also Related: The 8 Forms of Lakshmi

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Vijaya Lakshmi - victory, could be in achieving love
Vidya Lakshmi - knowledge, which includes LoA (so to speak)
Dhairya Lakshmi - courage and social skills
Gaja Lakshmi - Power, Glamour (helps, right)?

The 8 of them work in synchrony to achieve objectives.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Lakshmi signifies beauty. There are two forms of the Goddess - ethereal or transcendental beauty represented by Lalita, and material/worldly beauty by Lakshmi. In India, it is a common practice to refer to beautiful women as “Lakshmi” (e.g., the bride was so beautiful, she looked like Lakshmi).

A longer list of 28 (or 36 or 108) forms of Lakshmi lists a form named Saundarya-Lakshmi , the Goddess of Beauty and Charisma.

Also, Lakshmi is the creator of Cupid (Kamadeva in Hindu lore), the deity of male beauty. It is said that only Lakshmi could create a being beautiful enough to bewitch everyone else. Beauty, sex, love, procreation - all those themes thrive well for those who Lakshmi smiles upon.

So, Lakshmi is associated with Beauty and Charisma in many ways.

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Vaikuntha Loka, Other Lokas, and Dreamweaver

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Vaikuntha essentially means a realm without Kuntha (stress, worry, anxiety, fear). It is one of the several abodes of Vishnu said to be accessible to those that ascend to a very high level of vibration and are aligned with the energies of Vishnu.

As Dream pointed out, it is very very very difficult for most humans to get there. During an astral journey, when I once tried to venture there, I had to encounter Sudarshana, a massive discus of light that would not let me pass. Sudarshana, often depicted as a weapon, is the dynamic aspect of Vishnu’s energy that burns away all negativity with its fiery blaze. This mechanism is a guard to this realm (every realm has its own mechanisms).

So, without the will of Vishnu and Sudarshana, it is impossible to ever glimpse this realm, forget encoding it. This speaks a lot about Dream’s capabilities as well.

The energy is a “taste” of the realm, like watching its picture, experiencing a waft of fragrance etc. Due to the very powerful and sanctifying nature of this realm, a taste of its energy is more than enough to offer many benefits:

• Protection from harm (Vishnu’s main function is sustenance of creation, and hence protection)
• Peace like one has never experienced before
• Bliss and Joy
• Longevity (Vaikuntha is visualized as floating on an ocean of nectar, so the beings here do not age or die)
• Prosperity (Vaikuntha is also the realm of Goddess Lakshmi, the bestower of riches, wealth and prosperity)

I was able to experience energy of this in several ways - images (of milky ocean, blue/violet flashes), fragrance (jasmine and sandalwood), taste (charged water tasted different and sweet).

@Maoshan_Wanderer

I would not rate one as better or higher, etc. There are different realms, and aspirants aligned with those energies, when qualified, reside there. There is Rudraloka of Rudra, Kailasa of Sadashiva, Mahakaliasa of Mahasadashiva, Goloka of Krishna, Saketa-dhama of Narayana or Vishnu, Manidvipa of the Goddess, Durgaloka of Siddhas who are adept at Durga related practices, etc. There are such myriad worlds. In the West (today), there is no concept of polytheism, so everything is always mapped to one model where the aspirant ascends a universal model to get the One god. This is not true with Eastern metaphysics at all. We need to stop interpreting the Eastern mysticism through the simplisitic and linear lens of monotheistic framework.

Even before the Theosophists and New Agers driven by theosophical concepts came up with mappings aligend with mumbo-jumbo that made sense to linear Western-conditioned minds, sectarians in India had already attempted to do that - Shaiva Puranas define a hierarchy of realms, of course placing Shiva’s realms above other realms, and Vaishnavas did the same, battling with each other.

So I would not waste time with unnecessary mappings and comparisons of what is higher than what else as such thinking is precisely what will ensure that one never experiences any of these realms. We just need to appreciate that we have an opportunity to experience and benefit from these energies, be full of gratitude to these divine and compassionate entities as well Dream for making it available. All of these realms are ultimate ones depending on the person, or none of them if the goal is the formless, nameless pure Nothingness which the Veda describes as na tatra sūryo bhāti na candratārakaṃ - Neither does the sun shine there, nor the moon with all the stars, nor does this lightning shine.

There was a realized saint in India in the early part of this century who once witnessed a long debate of whether Shiva’s loka is higher than Vishnu’s or vice versa. He remarked - “you guys are not even traveling faster than a bullock cart on your spiritual journey, and you are debating which realm is higher than the other, as though you are anywhere closer to getting there… And moreover, wasted the last few hours debating that, while you could’ve gotten somewhere, at least in the material world. Reach one of them first, and if you do, then you can decide whether you are satisfied or want to go higher”…

So the debate is an old one and will continue

@Maoshan_Wanderer

In Hinduism, there is a concept of Deva - Rishi and Pitri. Pitris are ancestors, who gradually ascend to Rishis or Seers and then to Devas - at their own pace and speed. Rishis or Seers are generally supposed to be in the Tapo loka (which literally means heat (tapana = heat derived from sanskrit root tApa, tap dhatu) or interpreted as penance) who do guide humanity through other means. I have tried to view them but it has been very difficult for me and the only communication from these beings has been possible when they have chosen to do so.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

That is my current opinion and understanding based on my past experience with these deities - they can be picky about who they work with/or not. Without going into much details, I will just state that DW is in very good terms with a lot of these deities/entities. I guess when one’s intent is pure, these entities are onboard with no resistance.

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More on Divine Figures

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Kubera, a Yaksha (a category of demigods) is very popular in India and other Asian countries.

• He is the guardian of one of the eight cardinal directions - North. He is invoked for protection in the north before all rituals.
• He is associated with Lakshmi, the Goddess of Wealth, and is said to be one of her attendants, who holds the power to bring wealth and fortune.
• His forte is “unexplained, sudden” wealth and luck - like lotteries, inheritance, finding treasure, etc. In fact, he is specifically invoked for the purpose of finding hidden treasures.
• He is also a confidant and devotee of Shiva and is said to bless devotees of Shiva with wealth.
• The myths talk of Kubera possessing Pushpaka Vimana, a flying vehicle that expands and contracts to fit as many people as need be, and also, when in this vehicle, there is no death or decay (hmmmm!)

• In the school of Goddess-centric Tantra, Kubera is one of the 12 main teachers and taught his own school of Goddess-centric Tantra, which is lost today (though the mantra as revealed by the Goddess to Kubera is preserved, the lineage is lost).

Kubera was certainly a Vedic deity, who was also adopted by the Buddhists as Jambhala, a Bodhisattva who grants wealth and prosperity.

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Becoming a Higher (Human) Being

@Maoshan_Wanderer

No offense to anyone - but the number of folks who want to grow their bananas, use audios to get alien/tulpa girlfriends or attract celestial nymphs from the court of Indra etc. is surprising! Either we have a generational issue where people are lonely due to social issues, or perverse due to addictions and unhealthy living or is there a bigger issue here that we are all missing? As Jon Peniel described it somewhere, “Ejaculatory Consciousness” needs to be remedied and quickly…

I hop on to this forum a few times in a day and these themes are so dominant on various threads - people trying to get laid - even if it is with mythical or invisible beings. I think Dream needs to do more group meditation sessions to increase collective awareness. I am not trying to be dismissive, may be it has nothing to do with this generation, may be this has always been the case… may be… I assume, with more people using Dream’s audios, perhaps we will begin to think beyond mere survival and evolve a little further.

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Higher (Human) Being in The Pure Land

@Maoshan_Wanderer

[Light and Vibrational Guidance] does act as one’s inner Guru. A physical Guru is nothing but an emanation of one’s awakened Mind-Self. One of my Teachers from an astral dimension once told me that he was the Awakened aspect of me from another dimension.

Will it work towards your goal? It does if your goals are in your highest good. The dichotomy of “I want A” but “B is better for me” is an ongoing battle of duality, but when one is at a higher vibrational state, just as this audio attempts to get us into, there is no such divergence. Initially, the conscious mind seems to take a backseat and let the higher guidance lead the way - this is the stage where non-duality feels like an experience. Eventually, even the dichotomy of the conscious mind and this aspect of higher guidance are no longer separate and it is just one vast expanded consciousness for all practical purposes. This is the stage where non-duality is not an experience or a state, but just one’s effortless nature.

Guru has been so-called because he does not light a lamp to shine light over darkness but burns the darkness down. Now, after something burns down, what is left? In this case neither the darkness nor the light, but just the great aspect-less Great Luminescent Void (nothing to do with the Void of Nihilism).

If one is regularly and consciously using this field along with the Light of Savitur, rapid spiritual progress is possible.

Also, several enlightened beings in Pure Land dimensions (not all as I was told by one of them recently) are Bodhisattvas, who have taken the vow not to drop their individual existence until humanity ascends. These teachers are very eager to guide those that want to learn - and this audio is an invaluable portal to access that guidance. Pure Land seems to be a bunch of different dimensions - some here are future aspects of humanity, some others are from other dimensions, some are deities who have never been on earth - so it is an eclectic mix of compassionate beings who are willing to teach us, learn from us and expand our consciousness.

The Pure Land dimension also gets called Sukhavati, the land of Bliss not without reason. Bliss in these dimensions arise from cessation and the resulting peace and compassion, and this audio carries forth that bliss if you meditate to it.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

When one is detoxed in body and mind, the body and energy system are coherent, and aligned with the Divine Will, you not only get guidance, but you are able to perceive the guidance clearly and act upon it.

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Tungnath Temple

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@Maoshan_Wanderer

Altitude and air are not really the reasons I got this NFT, though that is an added benefit.

This temple is extremely ancient and abundant with very palpable energies of Shiva and the Goddess. So, the portal is sort of way to connect to the energy of Shiva. This is one of the shrines ancient Hindus visited to do practices to liberate themselves from the matrix named Samsara…

The Mahabharata, Indian epic, talks of the war between the princes of Kuru dynasty. Pandavas defeated their enemies after a long bloody war but the war weighed down on them. The spirits, the sin of killing haunted them and they realized they would not attain liberation unless they absolved themselves of the guilt, anger, grief, etc.

So they resorted to Shiva, who represents the Highest Consciousness that is simply bliss personified, and attained their goal after a penance in this place. The temple was lost in time. Around eighth century, Shankaracharya, the famed Advaitin (non-dualist) and a mystic, re-discovered the lost shrine and brought it back to the glory.

Tunganath is also an ancient seat of Tantra practice where Shiva assumes the form of Aghora (the non-terrifying one), considered one of the most potent manifestations of the Shiva energy that is especially powerful in aiding non-dual consciousness.

Tunganath represents one of five groups of Shiva shrines known as Pancha Kedara - each representing an element. So, in a way, portal to one of these, is a portal to the other four connected shrines as well. In each of the five shrines, one of the five Shiva’s mantras is practiced to purify and refine the element according to a Yogi I met in Benaras in 2004. It is said that due to extreme cold, and altitude, the mind remains stable in meditation and the tendency to lose essence (called Bindu-skhalana or ejaculation of primordial essence) is very less - making this a suitable place for liberative practices and to perfect alchemy.

[Bronyraur]

See also Part 1

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Kundalini

Summary

@Maoshan_Wanderer

You have two ways to awaken the Kundalini.

• Awaken Kundalini “forcibly” - this is what Hatha Yoga (Hatha = stubborn force) is all about. If one is not prepared, and their energy and mind are not prepared enough, lot of issues.
• Make conditions conducive and Kundalini rises naturally and gracefully. This is what the Daoists, Tantra practitioners etc. do

Use the Vibration, Alchemy and Chakra fields - add Pranayama Training - refine your energy body and mind and awakening should happen on its own.

Or you can also use some tracks on the “Mantra Meditations” channel where Dream created some energy links to archetypes - in this case, Kundalini awakens as an enlightened archetype instead of a non-personal energy and at the right time, massive Shaktipat comes through some of these audios.

Also note that awakening does not mean ascent or refinement. Awakening is the beginning of the journey and lot of work lays ahead.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

One thing you can do is take a 3-day break from ALL energetic audios, eat some red meat for grounding, walk barefoot on the earth, drink as much pure water as you can, get some sunlight, and see if that grounds you…

@Maoshan_Wanderer

When I experienced this, what helped me was the emotion of surrender. Surrender unconditionally to the Divine Consciousness, try to let ego not interfere, and let the divine force take over. Kundalini experiences are very unique to each individual, a lot of it influenced by our own conditioning… but letting go really helps. I know, easier said than done…

My “relationship” with Kundalini is not of an impersonal force, but Mother personified, the Great Goddess, and the energy responds back similarly, with love and gentleness, without causing much discomfort. That may be one approach that may help - see this not as Kundalini or a force that needs to be controlled, regulated, tamed, grounded, etc., but as the Divine Energy of whatever form of g/God you believe in, and surrender to its higher consciousness and let the magick work itself…

@Maoshan_Wanderer

[audio to be found in the original post]

This is a simple but great grounding meditation that many people with Kundalini related issues find help from… If you have inclination toward any form of the Divine - such as god/God/gods etc., address this sentient energy as your chosen Divinity and Kundalini will respond accordingly - no more as an impersonal force, but the personification of Divinity, with whatever attributes you ascribe to that conception of the Divine. Treat her as the Mother Energy or Gaia and she responds back with love and compassion. A lot of times, the distress is not because of the energy, but the inability of the system to handle her awakening - and when the force is personified and made personable, she adjusts her intensity to what is bearable at this moment.

Hope it helps.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

In Tantra, we use Bhakti Yoga (the path of Devotion and Unconditional Surrender) to mitigate the so-called Kundalini syndromes. It is only the path of Hatha (forcibly trying to awaken Kundalini through heat generated from Yogic practices, without pre-cursors) that causes friction and issues, and hence considered an inferior path to Tantra, Mantra, Raja and Bhakti Yogas.

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Living with Gazillion Tags

Summary

Intercession 2.0

@Maoshan_Wanderer

I don’t see a scenario where the Intercession tag does not help!

When my rational (or even intuitive mind) just cannot figure out what tag I need, or which specific audio(s) are going to help a current situation - I rely on Intercession (which in a way connects to my Higher Self) - help flows, answers come, guidance pours in - if I had to pick one tag, this would be that…

The 4 tags I always wear: Intercession, Shield 2.0, Magi, and Eternity (well, I need to be alive too, right? haha)

@Maoshan_Wanderer

A tip for those of you who practice Mantras, Deity work, Evocation etc. This tag works wonders! Long ago, when Dream was a less busy man (from a different timeline ) and had the luxury of time for “experiments”, he created a set of fields for me to reach the core of some specific Deities/Ascended Archetypes - which worked wonders. He would probe the energy link, establish a strong connection and create a field to replicate the experience. Those fields were life changing for my spiritual journey.

In my opinion, such focused connections are also possible through this tag (of course, there is always the general “help me” beacon for those that prefer simplicity) - which is why this tag is so precious, like the Alien Intercession audio. It is “generic”, but with focused intention, you can use it to make “specific” connections.

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Magi

@Maoshan_Wanderer

You can use it passively and actively.

Just wear it, experience more energy - that would be the passive way. Some folks (includes me) have reported that just wearing this pendant increases their capacity to wear/use more fields than they usually can.

But that is just scratching the surface. The real magick of this Field has more to it. You can intentionally gather specific types of energy in this tag. For example, I had done a certain ritual for a deity which took 8 hours and the place was buzzing with electric blue energy. I could gather that energy in my tag so I could use it later. I also sometimes collect energy from moonlight, sometimes during rain and thunderstorms (and earthquakes though you have to be careful here), and use it later to redirect this energy for healing, upgrading vibration, manifesting outcomes, etc.

The word “Magi” or “Magus” has the clue. When doing ritualistic magick, psionic work, astral work, manifestation, etc., this is a big boon - one can easily utilize this significant source of energy to do all such workings. Or, use it for simple things like healing a pain, clearing a room, etc. by intending to redirect the energy from the tag.

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Mantras

Summary

@Maoshan_Wanderer

[audio available in the original post]

Everyone starting with mantras should always start with Ganesha. He protects, grants peace, health and prosperity, removes obstacles to physical, mental, spiritual progress and his domain is the Root Chakra. He is one of the few deities that is a fierce warrior, an affectionate child, a celibate, a highly sexual lover - pretty much everything rolled into one.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

[audios available in the original post]

It is said that on Mahashivaratri, for those that do not sleep and stay awake and meditate, at some point, the energy of Shiva touches. Do it if you can, else no need to fret.

Reciting “Om Namah Shivaya” (while looping perhaps the Essence of Mantras) is a great way to attract the energies of Shiva. Shiva is also the Lord of Yoga - so Pranayama, Breath Awareness are also great ways to seek Shiva within oneself.

Listening or chanting the Rudra (a mantra sacred to Shiva, just like Chandi is to the Goddess) is also considered very sacred on Mahashivaratri.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

When we initially start reciting a mantra, rules are very important. It is all about meeting a specific count (generally 108, 300, 1008) every day at the same time (generally early morning, noon, evening or midnight), same place and facing the same direction. It is purely number crunching. Hitting the target without missing is all that matters.

Once we practice this for at least a few months, the mantra begins to awaken in the body and mind gets quieter, the bliss of the mantra and the energy of the deity begins to flow through. At this point, we can go easy on numbers and focus on fine tuning the mantra - such as sync the mantra with the breath, recite the mantra in the chakras, recite with spatial awareness and other such refinement techniques which will propel consciousness from “supported awareness” to “unsupported or effortless awareness”.

For the first stage, rosary is helpful as its physical. Also, over a period of time, the seat used, the rosary used - begin to accumulate a field of energy and touching it starts adding value to the mantra session. That is not to say this is a must - I had a teacher once in Nepal who would refuse to possess anything including a rosary. He would just use fingers to count, and I’ve seen many doing fine with just fingers for counting.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

So, the question is, what makes a mantra work then?

Mantra is essentially a phrase or a combination of sounds, often without any decipherable meaning - that represents a deity, or a concept (like the Vedic Mahavakyas that affirm the oneness of the individual self and the Divine Consciousness, etc.). Most mantras are sonic forms of deities, who in turn are divine archetypes. Deities are very real in a sense and equally unreal as they are also projections of the Higher Mind. They have existence in the macrocosm, and in the microcosm, as the two mirror each other anyway, right? Deities are ancient beings, expressions of the one Divine Consciousness, egregores, and aliens (in some cases) - all this is true. For example, Shiva is certainly a very ancient deity that has existed for a long, long time. At the same time, he is also the archetype of unbridled, liberated, non-dual consciousness. Some deities can be egregores (here is a funny example), created by mass adoration via the collective consciousness of millions of people (I try to not use the term deity for an egregore).

Between 2010 and 2012, Dalai Lama visited Seattle frequetly to hold some rituals. In one such ritual, he could sense my unease with some of the Tibetan mantras being recited and kept pointing to me and smiling. After the ritual, there was a discussion about the importance of pronunciation when it comes to mantras. One of his Western disciples asked a question: “I agree with this guy (me) to an extent but then how have these mantras worked for Tibetans for hundreds of years when they have been pronounced differently from their Sanskrit originals?”

DL looked at me questioningly, and below was my humble response:

1. The mantras were transferred via transmission originally by the Indian teachers who then carried them to Tibet. While the pronunciation changed due to the inability of Tibetans to pronounce Sanskrit, the seed of the transmission persisted, so the energetic connection remained that could be awakened through sheer effort, even if the mantra was not perfectly recited. So, the results here were less from the sonic vehicle of the mantra itself, but from the original energetic transmission that contained the mantra.
2. The Tibetans do not depend on a mantra alone (unlike most of their Indian counterparts today, who recite it incorrectly, but do not supplement it in other ways) - they follow intense visualizations of the deity, its concept, its form - gross, subtle and energetic, the energetic expression of the deity in the form of the mandala, etc. This conceptual communication with the deity is always used to supplement the mantra.
3. In spite of all this, there really is no proof that they have replicated the exact original alchemy/energetic effect accomplished by the practitioners of the original Sanskrit mantras like Indrabhuti, Lakshminkara, etc. in the ancient Oddiayana region (Swat valley) of India.

DL seemed satisfied with this response. He frequently encourages his students to learn and master the original mantras, when possible, rather than the Tibetan ones, now that they have access to them.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Pronunciation does not change. Enunciation does. Vaidika mantras do not follow the same rules as Tantric mantras, which is what primarily we discuss here when we say mantras (with Gayatri and Mrityunjaya being the exceptions).

For example, the famous Purusha Sukta is found in the Rik, Yajus as well as Atharvana Veda. The formation, the rules of enunciation are different between these. The words follow the same pre-Paninian Sanskrit, so the pronunciation is not different technically of the letters. Their enunciation is different as the svaras or intonation differ.

The three rules of enunciation - anudatta, udatta and svarita are defined differently not just between different Veda, but even between Shakhas of the same Veda (e.g. Shukla vs Krishna Yajurveda) - and these are passed on verbally across generations. And the enunciation differs between regions (Varanasi vs Kanchi, etc.)

Tantric mantras are less strict about pronunciation, but Nipun-type of quackery is unacceptable there as well.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Haha…I once lived in a monastery in a Japan for a month, right outside Kyoto. There was an Australian tourist who was visiting and he kept pestering the head monk there for a mantra. The monk tried telling him, “No, watch your breath, thats what we do” and eventually got tired and told him, “observe your mind reciting this mantra - kukola kukola”… That did help the tourist as he did it mindfully and within a few days, experienced bliss. Essentially, instead of the breath, he was focusing on this phrase.

And then the head monk one day told me, “See, you Vajrayana guys spend years reciting mantras, kukola does the same”. I did not say anything… A few days later, it was new moon, and I invited him to a ritual I was doing for Kali and he reluctantly agreed. And when the energies of the Goddess arrived, with a big bang like she always does, he was awestruck, petrified, scared out of his wits - all at the same time and his strongly held worldview was fully shattered.

He later decided to study under Rinpoche Namkhai Norbu and never ever made fun of mantras or Vajrayana again haha… He still lives in Italy in some city outside Naples.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Mantras - at least some of them - are ancient, “revealed” and have phonetic significance. Chalisa was a medieval hymn, composed by a saint who seemed to have a strong connection with Hanuman. While it may not be a true mantra, as @_OM explained on another thread, hymns/sacred objects may actually emanate power due to the faith placed by millions in it (and India has a massive population!). Take the case of Tibetan Lamas - they get a great deal of success with Mantras, which are all in Sanskrit - and Tibetans have a very short alphabet set which leads them to not being able to pronounce most of the Sanskrit mantras - but they still get them to work! Same with Chinese Buddhists. So yeah, there are a lot of factors to consider - nothing is black and white …

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Sanskrit was said to be revealed language, its grammar revealed by Shiva and so on. As @psynergy pointed out, the fact that it has been used for ritual, and spiritual purposes for millennia has strengthened the energetic field around it. It is called Devanagari - the language of the Gods - and this ties in with the revelation myth that surrounds it. I have heard Sanskrit sounds in some other non-earth dimensions during astral journeys, so there probably is something to this myth. In fact, that is what prompted me to invest a LOT of time to study Sanskrit.

At one point, when speaking with the current Dalai Lama in Seattle, he said: “you exude a lot of energy, that arises from your Sanskrit language”. That stayed deeply in my heart. He frequently suggests his students to learn the Buddhist mantras in original Sanskrit rather than their Tibetan and Chinese versions (which sound much different than the original Sanskrit ones).

The alphabet structure, the phonetics, all of these go hand in hand with the theory of Mantras, Chakras, Vedic idea of creation, etc. There is some inherent energy in the way these sounds are resonated as every letter is pictured to be a divinity. It is not always the meaning of the sound/word because a lot of bijas (seed sounds) have no meaning in the normal sense. If one looks at the evolution of Sanskrit, this was designed to be a language for rituals, unlike probably any other language in the world - it was never really for mundane communication. At most periods, while Sanskrit was used for spiritual work, there were always other languages used for secular communication like Pali, Paishachi, etc.

Latin seems to be another such language based on what I have heard from my friends who are deep into Occult work.

Also, mantras are not potent because they represent a meaning, in the normal sense of the world. They are potent because they represent the sound/light aspect of the Deity which was revealed to the seer of the mantra. A mantra is called bija (seed sound) because it contains in itself the full manifestation of the associated deity, which manifests fully when nurtured like a plant through dedicated practice. People like Dhyanguru and other charlatans make up their own mantras and people think they get to benefit from them. A lot of them are just placebo, a few cases could be energetic effect because a lot of people believe in it and that creates a dull field around it which can be accessed. This effect would probably work (positively or negatively) even with simple words like Coke if repeated. Genuine mantras are a whole different thing.

Traditionally, correct pronunciation has been stressed often, and a story is popularly narrated to illustrate this point. A certain man who was reciting mantras constantly lost his wives to diseases. He then reached out to his Guru who made him recite the mantra. He said, “bharyam bhakshatu bhairavi” - which means, “May Bhairavi the fierce one eat my wife”. And that happened lol. The actual mantra was, “bharyam rakshatu bhairavi”, which means, “May Bhairavi the fierce one protect my wife”. Hence, caution is needed when practicing fierce archetypes like Kali, etc. as these practices are not undertaken by beginners.

Another such tale. A powerful seer Tvashta wanted to have a son who would kill Indra, the great King. He performed a ritual reciting a Vedic mantra, 'Indra shatrurvardhasva" - which meant, “May Indra’s enemy (my son), grow and prosper”. However, the way he intonated it, the meaning changed to: “May Indra, my son’s enemy, grow and prosper” and eventually Indra ended up killing his son. Hence it is said, “Yajamanam hinasti” - incorrectly intonated mantra destroys the reciter. Of course, this is more applicable to severe mantras than benign ones.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

While the common (or polished interpretation that was presented to non-initiates who would otherwise be scandalized lol) meanings are already listed, I was wondering whether or not to speak about the inner meaning related to sexual alchemy but could not resist commenting haha

Mani - Thunderbolt Jewel or Vajra
Padma - The Flower or Vulva
Hum - Penetration
And what drives this activity? The driver as well as the destination → OM

Tantra developed in a highly orthodox environment and faced a lot of opposition thanks to some “radical” ideas that were considered bizarre by orthodoxy. So, secret underground societies were formed that refined and practiced these techniques (Guhyasamaja). They also developed a technique or language called “Sandhyabhasha” - the twilight language. Mantras, and techniques were described in highly metaphorical, coded language and only the initiates knew how to derive the actual mantra/technique from manuals. Following the same paradigm, Padma (lotus) in Tantra means the Female Organ, and Vajra or Jewel (Thunderbolt) means virile Male Organ. The coming together of the two in a specific way was the core technique of sexual alchemy, an integral part of Tantra. These techniques were also coded because such things involving sex, intoxication, etc., are easy to abuse and pervert.

This mantra originally was intended for sexual alchemy in highly-advanced rituals where the breath is stilled, the mind is focused on the mantra with specific visualization and technique. The result is not a localized orgasm driven by ejaculation, but a Crown-gasm accompanied by secretion of nectar (these are experienced for real, and not imaginary, I can vouch by personal experience).

In fact, this is just the first of a series of mantras

The next one is oṃ manidhāriṇi vajriṇi svāhā (OM Oblations to the one who has encompassed/assimilated the essence of the Thunderbolt) - this is the next mantra recited when the Crown-gasm arises, where the Female Yogini focus on the bliss of the Crown-gasm, while also remaining aware of this mantra being recited in conjunction with the regulated breath. The Male Yogin has his mantra to recite similarly.

Normal orgasm tires people and puts one to sleep. This Crown-gasm has the opposite effect. It wakes us from Cosmic Sleep - we wake up from sleep, from the dream of the self as well as that of the Cosmic Mind, and then reality becomes starkly evident. When the sleep, the dream, etc., collapse into singularity, one begins to see the real nature of things - that the observer and the observed are not different, everything is one. This Awakening is contrasted by masters of the yore with the sleep effect of the mundane orgasm.

Note: Focus on breath and let go when listening to this field, you will slowly notice bliss arising

@Maoshan_Wanderer

(Long rambling warning )

There is a reason why I am not too interested in Vedic mantras.

In Indic Spiritual System, there are two distinct paths:

• Nigama (originating from the Veda)
• Agama (originating from Tantra, and to an extent from Purāṇic lore)

These two, while complimentary and even overlapping at times, have distinct approaches and differences in their aspects of energetic alchemy. Some famous philosophers like Abhinavagupta even contend that the Vedic path is unsuitable in the current cycle of time (called Kaliyuga according to the Hindu calendar). Why is that?

• The Vedic system is a “way of life”. One tends to pick a mantra here, a ritual there and they often grant little to no results and may instead cause harm. The system was designed and practiced to be a holistic way of life and when you strip disjoint aspects from it, one does not usually get the intended results.
• The Vedic system can be roughly categorized as Solar/Fire Alchemy. Hence the central importance of the formula/mantra called Sāvitrī (that popularly gets called Gāyatrī). A key aspect of the Vedic system is the Fire Ritual - a daily performance of Agnihōtra, and occasional performance of the much larger and complex Yajnas. The Veda does not teach worship in the sense of temple/deity worship. Agni or Fire is the means to access the power of the Devas and this is the central tenet of the Vedic system.
• Also, the Vedic system is very precise and rules are strict. How one leads daily life (physical and mental purity), a strict regimen of daily rituals, following of āśrama system based on one’s stage in life (celibacy, householder, renunciate, monk), and a lifelong adherence to the Vedic way of life.
• The pronunciation and intonation of mantras have to be very specific. These days, folks even record the sacred Gāyatrī in various tunes - no wonder people cannot unlock the Solar Energy embedded in this mantra.

So, the Vedic system is not easy to follow in this day and age and requires a lifetime of commitment. The Tantra and Puanic systems are more heterodox, evolve with time, and customize their systems to match various needs. Also, the Vedic system follows Vamśavr̥kṣa - the genealogical tree. The seed of the mantras was planted by original seers (sages who were revealed the Vedic mantras), and this was passed down in their families (gotra). For example, a certain family descendent from sage Bhr̥gu will follow a certain Veda, and there too a specific branch of it (śākhā) that practice the rituals, and mantras inherited from their ancestors. They are expected to have the necessary attunement (dīkṣā) in two forms - by way of initiation by the father, and dedicated practice that unlocks the mantra through their genealogical connection to the original seer. Even the Gāyatrī one needs to recite depends on which Veda they follow and which specific branch of that Veda. There is no one standard Gāyatrī mantra for all.

In Tantra, the system follows Vidyāvr̥kṣa, the tree of Knowledge, where genealogy does not matter much. The initiation from a capable teacher who can impart an awakened seed mantra to the student is all that is needed. Even here, not every mantra suits everyone. Some mantras are “ari mantras” (foes) which disrupt one’s life, energy, prosperity, etc. I had a student who came to me for initiation into the mantra of a certain form of Kālī - I tested his horoscope and also via my guides, and found that this mantra was not suitable for him. He decided to do that anyway and within a year, had to abandon the mantra as various misfortunes hit him. There are mantras however that are suitable for all - Shiva Pañcākṣarī (śivāya namaḥ), Nārāyaṇa aṣṭākṣarī (oṃ namō nārāyaṇāya), Vāsudēva dvādaśākṣarī (oṃ namō bhagavatē vāsudēvāya), and Kalisantaraṇa mantra (harē rāma harē rāma rāma rāma harē harē, harē kr̥ṣṇa harē kr̥ṣṇa kr̥ṣṇa kr̥ṣṇa harē harē).

Let’s see the reality today. Many people recite Gāyatrī but how many really get any benefit? Very, very few. A mantra has to be imparted from the teacher to the disciple as an “awakened” seed that can instantly connect the disciple to the entire lineage of teachers and eventually to the Deity whose sonic form is the mantra. The disciple has to still nurture this tree and water it by constant mindful practice to get a fruit, but at least the seed is “alive”. These days, folks pick up the mantra from YT and this mantra is neither empowered nor a living seed, so how would it grow into a tree and produce a seed? Even the Gāyatrī is given by fathers to sons via a ritual named Upanayana, which has unfortunately become just that, a ritual. If the father has not perfected and awakened the mantra, he will pass the dead seed to his son and this will continue for generations until a capable descendant appears.

It is still possible to get siddhi from such dead mantras, but it would take a monumental effort (tapasyā) to first awaken the seed, and then nurture it to grow into a tree and produce fruit. To a large extent, this applies to Tantric mantras too, but the Tantric systems are more adaptable (Lunar Alchemy) in the current age. Most traditionalists today supplement their mandatory Vedic rites (which they perform more as a duty) with Tantric mantras for spiritual and material benefit.

There are still a few Vedic ritualists left today who can perform complex Vedic rituals and activate the Solar Alchemy, but their numbers are dwindling rapidly due to the extreme materialization of the world we live in…

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Spiritual Path & Practices

Summary

@Maoshan_Wanderer

[answering questions about his daily practice]

It is indeed difficult. Last year and a half were amazing as I was working from home. And while at work, Neigong indeed is difficult lol…

Thankfully, my afternoon practice is more of breathing and mantras lately. I don’t really eat lunch, so at lunch hour, I just sit in my office and do 108 connected breaths.

I also take a walk during the lunch hour, where I can recite my afternoon mantra around 300 times. To ensure I don’t skip these, if I skip my afternoon mantra, I will need to double it in the evening when I get home.

And the solution also has been to increase the time in the night to make up for work hours. At work, I try to mentally recite my main mantra all the time and be mindful of it, at all times, to the degree possible.

Also, I try to do 48 sun salutations on Sundays along with some mantras - to boost/supplement my practice for the rest of week.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

How we respond to energy fields is similar to how we respond to exercise, supplements, etc. There is no universal way here as each person responds to energy fields uniquely - based on his/her energetic health, capability, the quality of the energetic field, and a host of other factors.

A couple of things you can do:

• Maintain energetic health by not listening to creators who are not very skilled in creating energy products. Despite best intentions, if a field is not created with finesse, it causes long-term problems.
• Follow commonsense protocols for a healthy body and mind - nutrition, sleep, hydration, relaxation, exercise, etc. The Body-Mind Complex, when sufficiently healthy, responds to the fields readily.
• As @Freitql pointed out, use the Core 3 audios regularly: Ego Dissolution, Subconscious Limits Remover, and Energy Blockage Removal.
• Stop using different audios for a few weeks other than the above 3 and the Point of No Return stack. A lot of times, less is more. Looping audios incessantly is not always productive.
• Do some form of meditation or energy exercise regularly. Could be Pranayama, Qigong, or the Reiki Star Exercise which has produced results for many many folks on this forum.
• Do some form of active release exercise. Could be something specific like say EFT , Yuen Method, etc., or something generic like Going into the Heart Space .
• A few times a day, actively Let Go .
• Lastly, always end the day with a few rounds of the Grounding audio.

Consistency and perseverance are the keys. Also, never forget that the Universe loves and deeply cares for all its creation. There are amazing beings looking out for us, so dispel thoughts of doubt, despair, and desperation and saddle up for a new day and a new future. It’s only going to get better from here on…

@Maoshan_Wanderer

I kinda use this in my list of primer audios and works beautifully:

• PoNR
• Torsion
• Quasi Crystal
• Gratitude of Blessings
• Force of Life
• Mana Circuits
• Plasmatron

@Maoshan_Wanderer

I start with this stack early in the morning, and then do an hour of my breathing routine and who needs food or coffee? I generate so much energy sustains me till about 6 pm with no food etc., needed.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Ganapatya school is very ancient. That Mahabharata says something does not make them heterodox (or heretic as you seem to be hinting at?). Heterodox with regard to what?

In Atharva Samhita, for example, Ganapati is tied to balagrahas along with Skanda, and these Samhitas are older than Bharata. The most celebrated philosopher, Shankaracharya, dismisses Vinayaka in his commentary of Gita as ‘bhuta’ - भूतानि विनायकमातृगणचतुर्भगिन्यादीनि यान्ति भूतेज्या भूतानां पूजकाः. Several hundred years later, all major monasteries established by Shankaracharya invoke Ganesha regularly, ignoring his statement in Gita Bhashya.

The understanding of these deities changes, based on the capacity of the observer, as also the social and cultural contexts at that time. In the Vedic age, Indra was the prototype of perfection while Mahabharata reduces him to an inferior demi-god. Those not eligible for Tantra, dwell on stories and myths (which are certainly of value too) - but Tantra is not about them - it is about archetypes, using practical methods to realize the deity, and become the deity. Acharyas of Ganaptya sects such as Herambasuta and Girijasuta reached heights of Siddhi that most people lecturing on Mahabharata and morality will probably can never ever even imagine.

The point is - there is no mainline Hindu tradition really. Whatever gets perceived as mainline does not date back to anytime earlier than say the sixteenth century. Manu Smriti prescribes whipping women who leave the home without husband’s permission, or boycotting a Brahmana who works for non-Brahmanas and so on. Now, is that “mainline” Hindu tradition?

The beauty of Hindu tradition is that there is no one tradition - one book that dictates A to be true and B to be false. So, your line of thought separating orthodoxy vs heterodoxy w.r.t Hindu tradition seems inaccurate.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

I doubt most of the millions worshipping Shiva in Linga understand either what the Linga stands for?

Also, your view seems to represent mostly the North of India? South India is abundant with temples filled with Ganesha with his Shakti - who is visualized as a goddess or consort.

My point again is - what is mainstream Hinduism? What you say seems like a skwed and narrow regional view which certainly is not really applicable to the highly Tantric Kerala, the Ganesha-centric Tamil Nadu or the Parashurama belt of Karnataka which is filled with Ganapatya images. Are these not “mainstream” Hindus because their ritual and understanding is much more evolved and sophisiticated than their comparatively myth-driven Northern counterparts? The Southern regions seem to preserve ritualistic purity way more than North India (except in places like Kamakhya which adhere to strict codes).

For example, temple worship is mainly derived from Agamas - Veda and earlier Puranas have nothing to do with temples. If temples are part of mainstream Hinduism, then sexual practices are abundant in most Agamas. So what is this mainstream “Hinduism”? I don’t seem to find one common version across the Indian subcontinent. The very simplistic methods of UP and Bihar are Hindu, the highly Tantric worship of Kerala and Assam are also Hindu, the Shiavagama based Tamil Nadu culture is Hindu, the highly smarta and shrauta influenced practices of Karnataka and Andhra are also Hindu - so which of these is really mainstream? None really, each region has their mainstream aspect, although some are more refined and advanced than others.

I think the attempt to homogenize a largely diverse cultural tradition is extremely counter-productive. There really is no right or wrong way, or in the case of highly diverse Indian subcontinent, a mainstream way. I don’t live in India myself, but it is fascinating to see that most North Indians seem to have little to no familiarity with the South Indian culture, religious and metaphysical, while the Southerners seem to understand the North a lot better. Not sure what the dynamic there is…

@Maoshan_Wanderer

I am asking you - what is mainline Hindu tradition? Is there one tradition? And is there something that is “mainline”? What is this “mainline” Hinduism based on? Vedas? If so, there is no concept of worship or temples in the Veda - then where was this so-called mainline Hinduism derived from?

If so, who defined it? Scriptural authority? Or regional practices? If regional, how is one region’s practices “mainline”? I pointed out that many many South Indian temples depict Ganesha as Vallabhopeta - with VallabhA aka Siddhi Lakshmi. Are South Indian traditions not “mainline”? One of India’s oldest temples, Kailasanatha in Kanchi, depicts Shodasha Ganpati, sixteen forms of Ganesha, half of who are depicted with consorts. The Shilpa-shastra says - yugalau mithunashilpau - the depiction of a pair - whether in explicit sexual union or not - is a depiction of conjugal harmony between the pair.

The very fact that a certain deity has sexual connotations is causing so much argument here, then how are we laying claim to liberalism?

There is a difference between inquiry, critical thinking, and blind embrace. I am just questioning the latter because it does not reflect the spirit of logic such as Mimamsa or Nyaya, the real spiritual heritage of India which most seem to have abandoned for myths, tales, and Arya-samaj influenced ridicule of ritual and metaphysics.

By the way, I understand the difference between Brahma (it is not brahm) and BrahmA - I have a masters in Sanskrit literature with a focus on Kashmir Shaivism from Varanasi Hindu University

Study, learn, explore - don’t go by what you see around you as “mainstream” - “heterodoxy” etc., as these are extremely subjective observations. While reform movements did get rid of evils such as Sati, untouchability, dowry, etc., they also caused damage by imposing a certain colonial mindset introducing the concept of shame, guilt, etc. especially regarding rituals, tantra, sexuality, etc., which unfortunately seems deeply engraved in India today even as she tries to emerge out of the colonial influence.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

[Adhering without questioning is not] always a virtue. No wonder critical thinking and a deep understanding are so severely lacking. This is probably a passable attitude for hippies, not for a serious student of any tradition, especially if one expects to gain any serious merit from it. As Vamakshepa, a famed teacher from Assam once said: “Ignorant people who pass by these erotic sculptures clutch their pearls in horror and criticize, sneaking glances at the same time; the curios try to appreciate their sculptural beauty; the devoted explain it away through their closely held myths; the philosopher explains it using concepts and principles to the point of boredom. A Tantravetta (knower of Tantra), however, not just sees but experiences in them the expression of his own Shiva and Shakti (yin and yang) dancing in union, and not a separate concept, entity or an object”.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Like everything else, groups have pros and cons.

Sangha, Ashrams, Covens, Bushmen circles - the concept of spiritual groups and the efficacy of groupthink is as old as time itself. Spiritual upliftment is both personal and communal, as no one is insulated from the interaction between the microcosm and the macrocosm. A true spiritual aspirant does not differentiate between the inside and the outside as work happens in both places. Statements such as these seem to stem out of ignorance of time tested traditions of spiritual circles of the Solomonic schools, the rapidly effective Bhairavi Chakra of Tantra and various such techniques involving a community.

The need and usefulness of a supporting community is emphasized for spiritual aspirants by different spiritual cultures. Like any tool, it can heal or cut, the blame or virtue lies not with the tool, but the user.

We all need to think for ourselves, not blindly buy into what Shiva, or Vishnu or Zeus or someone else says… It is just an opinion, not the commandment of truth or even universally relevant.

For those that can see and sense energy - observe, sense the energy of the person making the statement, sense the abundance or absence of equanimity and neutrality behind the person making these statements. That is the biggest clue that our higher self can provide.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Here is my thought on the Rudraksha beads. There are two aspects to this:

• Use on its own, as an amulet/magickal object
• As a tool in Mantra practice

The first one seems to be relatively new, popularized by sectarian Puranas composed from the fifteenth century onward. These ascribe magical properties to the Rudraksha bead itself, where one places a bead on the altar and receives certain benefits. The number of lines (faces as they are called) is the key factor here, the fewer the lines, the more magical the object is. For example, the five-faced Rudraksha is the most common one (and also the most recommended one in older scriptures) while the single-faced one is rarer and gets sold for a large sum of money (I have seen these listed for like USD 20k). 90% of the expensive forms unfortunately are fake, while some vendors in Nepal (which is where these beads grow) do offer a certificate of authenticity (no way to authenticate their authentication except for a word of mouth reputation).

IMHO, the magickal properties of Rudrakshas as a standalone magickal object are pretty overrated and driven more from commerce than their real occult value. Several nineteenth-century manuals, all traceable to Nepal (where these beads grow), hype the bead and it is clear it is driven by a commercial agenda. Sri Yantras are the new Rudrakshas of this decade - they are sold everywhere without a clear understanding of its uses and risks.

Now the second aspect - its ritualistic use, this does go back to near pre-historic times to the time of ancient Pashupata ascetics devoted to Shiva. Several artifacts uncovered from the ruins of Harappa show these ascetics adorned in Rudraksha necklaces, bracelets, etc. while performing their rituals. Mantra manuals frequently recommend using the Rudraksha beads as the rosary for getting success (Siddhi) in mantra practices. I mainly use Rudraksha for reciting all my mantras, clear quartz for a few mantras, and snake bone rosary for a select few mantras. Rudraksha is the best rosary to use for mantras that are recited for spiritual ascension.

To summarize, the Rudraksha as a standalone magickal object is pretty overrated, especially if you need to pay a big price for it. Whatever vibration one feels from it probably comes more from faith of people on it (egregorous) rather than its own inherent magickal value. I have some Rudrakshas that I got from a student who is from the erstwhile Nepal Royal family (which sadly got massacred a few years ago) - six faced (representing Subrahmanya, Shiva’s son), nine faced (representing Chandi), twelve faced (Vishnu), sixteen faced (representing the Great Goddess Shodashi, the culmination of Indian Tantric school), etc. Frankly, I have noticed nothing special about these beads. One of these exudes a very strong vibration - but that is because this was used for rituals by a past ruler of Nepal for 61 years while he recited thousands of mantras for Nepal’s patron deity Guhyeshvari (a form of Kali), and the vibration really is due to his energy and not the bead itself.

I would rather use a gemstone or buy one of Dream’s fields for the same price, which would be of a better value.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Lineage in Tantra never means familial, it always means energetic - attunements and strong connects passed on from a teacher to a student. It is also a morphic field. When you access it through say an attunement - called Diksha and transmitted through Shaktipat - you gain access to that morphic field which has energetic connections and efforts of a whole line of teachers that adds on to once own effort. Familial lineages, may matter, may not - for the most part, they don’t seem to do much because rarely do families preserve knowledge and practice - at least in the current times. I think this is where folks like Dream and Dale have revolutionized things and made such “fields” more accessible to people than they ever were (at least in our timeline).

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Experiences and Insights about Servitors and Tulpas

@Maoshan_Wanderer

It has been a quite a while knowing Dream, I quite forget how I came to know him. I think, it was through Dale who I knew since early 2000s through some Psionic and Tulpa related discussions.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Tulpas have their use too, although they are not recommended for folks who lack the skillset and experience to create and use Tulpas. I have a few Tulpas I have created, one is nearly 17 years old now, and if you know what you are doing, they serve their purpose. There are ways to bind the Tulpas during creation through talismans and energies - like Vajravarahi is a guardian deity who is used to bind the Tulpa in case such emanations go rogue. Again, one needs to know what they are doing or there is trouble. Tulpas go awry when they are inhabited by unwelcome entities, and they trace back to the creator whose emanation the Tulpa is. Everything is an emanation, those embodying wisdom of enlightened beings are called Tulku, others Tulpa. The first misnomer of Tulpas as depictions of monstrosity came from Alexandra David-Neel, with her monotheistic background of God vs Satan, who popularized it the spiritualist circles with only a passing knowledge of Tantric Buddhism, and her misrepresentation continues to this day. The concept of Tulpas and Tulkus cannot be understood well, without knowing Nirmanakaya concept of Buddhism. Cosmos is not as simple as Angels and Demons …

Dream’s servitors are 100% safe and cut the steep skillset/practice needed to create servitor-like beings, while assuring safety. The Fae servitors are probably the most advanced one ever made available to public in such a simple way…

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Servitors don’t exhibit such emotions and absolutely not Dream’s servitors!

Imagine, if this was the case, they could also go rogue and get angry!
Such things are possible with Tulpas (pronounced sprul-pa) but not with servitors. Another servitor creator who was in this sphere before Dale and Dream came along, was a bit of an amateur and created certain servitors which would grow weak or damaged when under psychic attack, but even those badly created ones never turned rogue! Because the energy structure of her servitors were erratic, my guardians would mercilessly thrash the servitor to prevent it from causing me energy imbalance and in a week, the supposedly “infallible” servitor was weak and diminishing in power. Still, it was like a program that was no longer able to operate with the efficiency it was meant to, but it did not turn into a virus. Dream’s programming is way more complex and sophisticated, but it is still a program!

So while one should be mindful of their creations with a sense of responsibility, one need not worry as though it was a sentient being with emotions, because it is not! Tulpas, a concept bastardized by the “black” application of Tibetan Dream Yoga, on the other hand, have such risks involved.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Servitors are always better and safer than Tulpas. One is taught a certain level of discipline of mind and energy before dwelling into Tulpas, and in the absence of that - Servitors are the way to go. Sentience of Tulpas can be a boon and a curse depending on various factors including the capability and level of training of the person who interacts with Tulpas.

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Interacting with Portals

@Maoshan_Wanderer

I have a prototype of The Divine Tree and here are some early impressions.

I have a few other art collectibles designed by Sapien (some unreleased so I apologize in advance for a possible faux pas) - but loving the new one even though I’ve had it only for a few days.

The one I’ve had the longest is the Stonehenge Portal. Phew, that one is strong and is growing with every passing day. At this point, it almost feels very physical and tactile. Due to my practices, I resonate a lot with this energy, the otherwordly and magickal aura from it, and hence I’ve placed it in my Shrine-room. I’ve seen a lot of communication come through this portal and much information download. I initially had it in our bedroom, but it did not feel right, as the energy felt too sacred and deserving of attention to place it there and for the most part forget it. The Shrine-room felt like a better choice and that now seems like a good decision. Some of my own Tulpas and Guardians are very picky in terms of what they like in the Shrine-room, but they approve and like this portal greatly.

The other Portal I’ve had is the Sedona one. This seems to have a very purifying effect on me, like a sauna for the soul. I had this in our living room and over time, it felt hot and dry around because the picture was radiating a lot of energy. I’ve now placed it in a hallway with a treadmill, so we get sufficient energy from it, but not all the time (again, these are my subjective experiences). A friend, however, resonates with this energy a lot more than Stonehenge, so she has two of these in her home as she prefers the constant presence of this energy.

On the other hand, Divine Tree feels very cozy, comforting, and perfect for the Living Room. As Dream has programmed the image to exude the presence of a real, physical tree, if you notice carefully, you will feel some breeze, a little rustle, etc., like you would from an actual tree. When I try to mentally interact with it, I can feel a subtle nod from it! We had a heatwave in California and I’ve been talking to the Tree and requesting it to keep us cool during the heatwave and so far, even though we ventured out in the sun for a bit, we’ve more or less not felt any distress.

Those that have the Divine Tree, do not forget to interact with it! I am sure you’ll have some memorable experiences…

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”Back” to… or for the Future

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Just a side story. I have always been ambitious, set goals for myself, worldly and spiritual, every year and try hard to meet and exceed them. I’ve done that since I was 4 or 5, and I am happy with my approach to life.

But, is that the only right way? Is there a right way? I mean, this is probably a practical and organized way to do things, but …

I have a cousin, who did not do well in school. He was always the black sheep in the family while most of our family is highly accomplished, if accumulating wealth or academics is the barometer for success. He was always ridiculed, made fun of and I was probably the only one who stood up for him (though we have nothing in common). And when he was around 21, he had an idea. He bought a wasted piece of land in San Francisco and constructed a parking lot. In the next few years, he did that with wastelands in many cities. A few decades later, he is the richest guy in our family and last I heard form him (4 days ago), he was having dinner with Elon Musk lol…

So, while I am not saying that the standard protocols of having a goal, being driven, etc. are not useful (they certainly are), but finding yourself is more important, as that brings out your strengths. Focusing on strength is much more productive in the long run than on flaws pre-dominantly. Find your strength and passion first and foremost.

Future is such a fascinating thing. Sometimes, even knowing it does not help haha. One of the last NFTs, I even saw the timestamp when the NFT would be posted the next morning, and still missed it (woke up, forgot and went to the gym). So, there’s that.

In Tantra, we talk of three ways to see the future. The inferior way is one where entities (demigods, semi-devils) astrally communicate the future events. There is always a price for such exchange though. The better way is to develop a high level of consciousness where veils of space and time fade, and you can see and experience events of past and future (or alternate dimensions and timelines) as though you were watching a movie or dreaming. Some folks can control this (I cannot, I am only see what gets shown, though my skills at it are improving thanks to an object known as Sammy’s Stone). And then the third - the Wizard is able to see what he wants, and makes that happen. What he sees is what happens. I have seen many so-called manifestation experts who claim to be able to do this, but naw, this is changing reality in a major way. Perhaps more people are able to do this in a meaningful way, thanks to some of Dream’s technology - 10-years ago, I would be doubtful that many folks would get there, but now, with these fields out there, the possibility is very high!!

Oh, highly recommend the Unbreakable and The Spear of Destiny by the way…

@Maoshan_Wanderer

In the olden days, “serious spiritual” advancement meant renunciation and living simple, often isolated lives. I think that really helps.

That said, we now have things like Fields that will help us make progress even amidst busy lives, jobs, social obligations, etc. However, is this enough and can one really attain a high level of spiritual attainment while doing all this monkey balancing? I don’t really know haha but for my own sake, I sure hope so

An ancient Sanskrit hymn says “naḻinī daḻagata jalamiva” - be like the drop of water on a lotus leaf - which is technically present, is not absorbed by the leaf and has no real attachment to the leaf. If one can accomplish a state of non-attachment/non-craving/non-grasping even when living a “social life”, that is half the battle won; but this is easier said than done! The more thoughts, the more energetic interactions, the more responsibilities and involvement, the more we get enmeshed in the matrix. It is absolutely possible to do all of this and yet reduce/avoid further getting drowned in the matrix, but it is not easy.

I believe in one thing though - sincere effort accumulates, even across lifetimes; so whatever effort we put in towards raising our consciousness, is not lost. It may take a while, but there is light at the end of the tunnel.

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Regarding the Woody Allen Effect

@Maoshan_Wanderer

(…) Every generation has both extremes of hope and apocalypse. Every generation, there are people who see the world ending, and then there are others who see a new period in the infinitude named time and rejoice that we are ascending - consciously, physically, or both. Historical records prove that every generation thought they were special, their period was special and they were lucky to have arrived at a momentous time. Every major civilization or generation thought they were the “chosen” ones and that their period was the most special one where old values and experiences were being replaced by new ones - there is partial truth to such a belief, especially if one looks at it microscopically.

Are we special and arrived on earth at this point where global consciousness is rising? Is it different than all those past-present-future timelines of generations? It is anyone’s guess. If such a thought process makes one hopeful, and happy, I suppose it is good to hold on to it. But it also opens a can of worms where a cult of “spiritual hippies” get created who basically equate anarchy with the ascension of consciousness (the YT New Age community for example and such folks always existed)…

I am still not convinced we are in any way special than any other time/civilization or something different is happening now that did not happen in the infinite past-present continuum. Is this special time relative to our own generation? Maybe, but only (the illusion of) time will tell, but a glance at the past and future tells me not much has changed or will change if one sees the big picture - things are just right as they were/are/will-be. The Universe is amazingly self-actuating, a lot more than we give credit for, and across timelines and dimensions…

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Three Treasures / San Bao (Chi, Jing, Shen)

Summary

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Negentropic Alchemy Series

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Negentropic Alchemy! Completes the triad. While the earlier audios were classic alchemy, this is new territory with infinite potential. The way my limited mind sees this - the earlier alchemical concepts were like static pictures while this Alchemical series is a kaleidoscopic array of many possibilities.

@Maoshan_Wanderer

A very famous example used to explain the three treasures in simple words is oft used in Daoist Alchemical texts.

Take the example of cooking a bowl of rice, simple right? Alchemy here is the transformation of raw rice to cooked rice which is usable by the body for energy.

• The preparation, the pre-requisite, the basis or groundwork to bring about this transformation is Jing.
• The very process of this transformation is Qi.
• The cost of this process - or the expense - may be viewed as Shen.

In the example of cooking rice, you do a bunch of prep work - get the rice, wash the rice, light the fire, place the uncooked rice on the fire and start cooking - all of this is Jing.

Now the actual process of heating up cold water, generating steam, transforming uncooked rice to soft, cooked, hot rice is Qi.

Now steam escapes, water gets used up, all of this expense is Shen. One can accelerate the alchemy of cooking rice by say increasing the fire (aka spend more Jing to generate more Shen). So, what you spend and how much depends on what you want to achieve.

Now, the teacher asks his disciple: What brings about the alchemy here? Is it the fire, the water, the cooking pot, rice, or the steam?

The wise disciple replies: All of them working synergistically together is what brings about the alchemy. Not one, not two, but all three working together.

The traditional way of the Daoist is one where one prepares the physical body and then the energetic body, finally marching toward the spirit (Jing → Qi → Shen). However, there are also Shen-centric schools that teach purely Shengong (Buddhist influence is dominant here) where the body is viewed through the angle of being impermanent, so there is little to no effort spent on perfecting the physical organ. The focus is solely on the Spirit aka Shen. Some of these schools (not all) believe that Shen automatically promotes a healthy body and mind as well and hence focusing on Shen alone will grant the benefit of Jing and Qi as well, but this is the path of the renunciate and may not work well practically for most common folks. Ramana Maharshi, the great non-dualist is a good example of Shen-only cultivation - he was frail, had to be operated for cancer, but none of it even registered with him as he gave no cognizance to his body or mind, and resided in a state of non-duality, blissed out, undisturbed, and body, its afflictions, so-called pain, etc. failed to even register with him. Again, not easy for 99% of the folks to go this route.

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Major Blueprint of Power

@Maoshan_Wanderer

Overall, it felt like I was listening to the combined effect of the Jing, Chi, Shen, and Core Restoration and Alchemy series audios - all synergetically coming together in one big simultaneous implosion of negentropy.

[Ananda]

"A man asked his father: “Dad, how wil I ever find the right woman?”

His father replied: “Forget finding the right woman, focus on being the right man!”

[rigel]

haha indeed! as within so without

[Wolfy3332]

Ya… fully focused on all my heart desires, somethings I don’t believe in looking for, like love. But rather keep being the embodiment of all that I can be, what’s meant to be eventually will be. Of course, that’s not to say don’t be effortful, but I let go what doesn’t need to be held.

[Cathroulette]

Bump
I had a great time reading his posts and I keep coming back because each sentence has so much knowledge

@Bronyraur

Excuse me guys, but after Sammy and _OM, shouldn’t we create a topic also for Maoshan? Because the pal is a walking encyclopedia…

Also guys can anyone link me to Sammy and _OM’s index threads?

[Bronyraur]

@Cathroulette

each sentence has so much knowledge

He’s incredible indeed. I’ve rarely learned that much from one single person.

@Cathroulette

Also guys can anyone link me to Sammy and _OM’s index threads?

I’m linking Sammy’s thread below. _OM’s was deleted upon his request.

SammyG Speaks: A Collection of Posts

[Dibella]

@Maoshan_Wanderer Hi I have to get ur urgent attention!1!1!!1! I love u so much ur so cool >.< anyways anyways.

Please message me pretty please with a cherry on top​:two_hearts:

[SoulStar33]

My God, @Maoshan_Wanderer has so much knowledge (theoretical and practical), which/that would take us lifetimes to gain!
Thank You for Sharing with us, mere mortals!
Many Thanks, @Bronyraur, for this Great Indexed Collection of Maoshan’s Wisdom!

[Maoshan_Wanderer]

Appreciate your kind words, but I don’t think I deserve any credit. For some reason, even as a child, the Divine Mother has been very kind to me and has led me to unbelievably kind and advanced teachers (which includes Dream), and any little thing I learned is thanks to that Grace and not really due to my capability or brilliance haha

At times, when I type a post, I don’t even know what I write until after I have completed. It is just the energy flowing through… I guess I am an example of how unconditional Divine Grace is, even lifts up an underserving idiot like me…

[Rosechalice]

dang, that happens to me too sometimes. I go back and see something I wrote and don’t even remember writing it, lol

[anon14224340]

Hey brother, when you have time please DM me @Maoshan_Wanderer

Seeking your advice on some stuff.

:) Thank you

[Gnosticmedic27]

Hey @Maoshan_Wanderer! Will you please message me today when you have a chance? Thanks!

[Maoshan_Wanderer]

Hi Barry,

Sorry was down energetically, physically last few days. Got hit by Covid lol, in spite of all those vaccines and boosters. Getting better slowly thanks to Dream and PU.

[SoulStar33]

I Wish You a Healthy and Speedy Recovery.

[Maoshan_Wanderer]

Thank you